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Re: I’m going to get in BIG trouble...

Post by JEBar » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:34 am

Redthies wrote:I got confirmation today that my order is on the way. I won’t see it for a few weeks with my vacation plans, but should have it in time for a whitetail and turkey trip October 12th.
per Hannibal, I love it when a plan comes together .... :D

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Post by ESquared » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:16 am

I'm just getting back up to speed on the Receiver vs. Dovetail install of the peep. HRA really recommends putting the Peep in the dovetail where the buckhorn used to be? Haven't ever tried it, but seems very counterintuitive to have the peep that far from your eyeball. Seems to defeat the purpose.

Has anyone here ever done it that way?
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Re: I’m going to get in BIG trouble...

Post by Mags » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:00 pm

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That Anthony quote is what Skinner has posted on their Henry page.
http://www.skinnersights.com/henry_rifles_18.html

As I shared in another post in on a similar topic, I'm badly far sighted so having a receiver mounted sight that close to my face would be invisible even with my glasses. Yea I know in our older age group I'm in the minority. According to my eye doctor most people my age are near sighted. Anyway my point is consider the condition of your eye sight as a factor in choosing where to mount the sight.
ESquared wrote:... HRA really recommends putting the Peep in the dovetail where the buckhorn used to be? Haven't ever tried it, but seems very counterintuitive to have the peep that far from your eyeball. Seems to defeat the purpose.

Has anyone here ever done it that way?
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Re: I’m going to get in BIG trouble...

Post by Redthies » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:22 pm

But is the quote from Anthony recent, or from before Skinner started making the Express for Henry rifles? The only factory installed Skinner sight is receiver mounted, so...
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Re: I’m going to get in BIG trouble...

Post by Mags » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:14 pm

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Ask Andy.
andy@skinnersights.com
Redthies wrote:But is the quote from Anthony recent, or from before Skinner started making the Express for Henry rifles? The only factory installed Skinner sight is receiver mounted, so...
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Re: I’m going to get in BIG trouble...

Post by Redthies » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:39 pm

Mags wrote:.
Ask Andy.
andy@skinnersights.com
I emailed him last week asking his opinion on which way I should go. He has yet to respond.
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Re: I’m going to get in BIG trouble...

Post by Redthies » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:28 pm

Mags wrote:Anyway my point is consider the condition of your eye sight as a factor in choosing where to mount the sight.
A very good point. I’m going off my SGC which has the receiver peep, and it works great for my 50 year old eyes. I’m probably just going to choke on the extra money and get what I really want. I’m hoping to be one of the 50% that can use the factory front sight. If not, I’ll get a fibre optic front so it’s better in low light. I have those on my turkey gun and they are awesome.
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Post by Mags » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:26 pm

Redthies wrote:... a fibre optic front so it’s better in low light.
New to me, I thought they were bling. Makes sense now. Its a light pipe, the surface gathers available light and pipes it to the end which appears as a bead on the front sight. Simple but clever.
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Post by Mistered » Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:19 am

but seems very counterintuitive to have the peep that far from your eyeball. Seems to defeat the purpose.
Kind of a 'double edged sword'
While there is no denying the advantage of a longer sighting plane with the peep farther from the front and closer to the eye this can result in the peep not being too clear and may make sight acquisition more difficult.
With the peep closet to the front both sights may be closer in focus (depending on the person) and while this may result in a clearer sight picture the shorter sight plane will be less forgiving and slight movements can result in dramatic changes in bullet impact.
I had a chance to test this with my new Ruger PCC as it has a barrel mounted peep with a shielded blade front. I was initially concerned about this and it did take a bit of getting used to but I find I really like both the aperture and blade in relatively clear focus. It took a little more concentration to keep the movement to a minimum but after a little practice I managed good consistency and pretty tight groups. Because it is a semi auto I don't have to break cheek weld for follow-up shots but to maintain a similar pattern of having to move the rifle to reload (as in a lever action) I was laying the rifle on my rest while I spotted each shot with binos. Later on I was offhand kneeling with it and really liking my results at 100+ yards on random targets.

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Re: I’m going to get in BIG trouble...

Post by Frontiersman » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:48 am

You know ...

I have found that whether you go North, South, East or West; you will be somewhere near a gun shop if you drive far enough. I think they do it on purpose. They put one not more than 1/4 mile from my almost shortest route home from work.

Buying a gun really just can't be helped. It's just best to have one on lay-a-way so that you won't be subject to impulse buying. Unless of course, it's something really special. You can always keep paying on the other one. Or two...

It's not a problem ... not really.

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Re: I’m going to get in BIG trouble...

Post by Redthies » Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:00 pm

Mags wrote:
Redthies wrote:... a fibre optic front so it’s better in low light.
New to me, I thought they were bling. Makes sense now. Its a light pipe, the surface gathers available light and pipes it to the end which appears as a bead on the front sight. Simple but clever.
I hadn’t ever considered them either as it didn’t look “right” to me to have red or green glowing sights on a rifle or shotgun, but I assure, in a hunting situation in early or late lighting situations, they are phenomenal. Because I intend to use this .357 for deer, it is entirely likely I will be in these situations. It won’t look as “Wild West” as it could, but will certainly be a better tool for putting Bambi in the freezer.

Other than sights and maybe another Pioneer lever cover, I’m going to leave this one alone. The polyurethane coating on the wood from the factory will be better for bush use, and seeing as the receiver is actually blued steel instead of painted Zamak, it won’t need attention either.
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Post by deano5150 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:48 pm

I’ve been wanting one of those, too. I promised the wife I wouldn’t buy any more guns this year. My last purchase was a Big Boy brass 357. Oh, well. January isn’t too far away. Ha, ha.

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Re: I’m going to get in BIG trouble...

Post by Redthies » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:12 pm

I didn’t make any promises luckily, so I’m good there. I however, don’t have any room in my safe, and probably don’t “need” anymore than 4 lever guns! I’ve got semis, a pump and a bolt as well as bows to play with too. You can only use one long gun at a go, so 8 is enough for now...
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Re: I’m going to get in BIG trouble...

Post by Mags » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:48 am

One for every day of the week with two on Sunday :P
Redthies wrote:... so 8 is enough for now...
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Re: I’m going to get in BIG trouble...

Post by Redthies » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:51 am

Mags wrote:One for every day of the week with two on Sunday :P
Redthies wrote:... so 8 is enough for now...
Right?! :mrgreen:
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Re: I’m going to get in BIG trouble...

Post by Redthies » Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:44 pm

It’s on!
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Re: I’m going to get in BIG trouble...

Post by Mags » Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:32 pm

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Congrats, looks like you got it in time to maybe do some shooting before that Ghost Town trip!
Redthies wrote:It’s on!
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Re: I’m going to get in BIG trouble...

Post by Redthies » Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:37 pm

I wish. Not going to be time, and I’m not legally allowed to shoot single projectile rounds on my property. .22 goes unnoticed, but .357 might arouse some interest;)
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Post by Mags » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:30 pm

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ya it certainly might :o
Redthies wrote:I wish. Not going to be time, and I’m not legally allowed to shoot single projectile rounds on my property. .22 goes unnoticed, but .357 might arouse some interest;)
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Re: I’m going to get in BIG trouble...

Post by Redthies » Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:02 am

I decided not to muck about and abused my visa this morning. Even before the espresso machine was warmed up I ordered up a Skinner Express peep, a .650 front Patridge, a Rangerpoint Precision round dovetail filler and another Pioneer Gunworks leather lever cover. This will pretty much make the .357 set up exactly as my SGC is. The wood grain on the Big Boy is actually visible through the finish, unlike on the SGC so I will leave well enough alone in that regard. I’ll try and get time for a photo today, but we all know what these look like by now...

I won’t get to play with this one until October now, as I’m wrapping up a couple of things with work, and servicing the diesel for our road trip. When I get home all the goodies should be at the post office so I’ll be keen to get at it then.
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