Jacketed VS Coated VS Lead Cast

[JEBar]

remarkable .... truly first class work

[DAVIDF]

Look at Beartooth's 405gr LFN GC or their 425 gr 425gr WLN GC.

looked at their link http://beartoothbullets.com/bulletselect/index.htm and found that they offer a 525g WLN GC which they say "For MAXIMUM penetration here's your bullet for .45-70's! Longest, Widest nose possible and still feed through the magazine and action of a Marlin 1895 and Winchester 1886. An amazing bullet! Very accurate. The absolute last word in EXTREME penetration for the .45-70 Gov't., Beartooth Bullets Pile-Driver bullet!" .... to me that is amazing because it goes against the info from most ever other manufacture .... 405 grans has been said to be the largest that the casing can accommodate and meet all specs ....

I wouldn't be interested much in a 525gr bullet in a .45-70 (if I had one), but Hickock45 shoots 500gr loads out of his. The cases are filled with black powder and the pressure is low. I've always wanted a .45-70 since I was a teenager. I'd really love a Uberti reproduction of the Winchester 1885 High Wall. But, I'd be happy with 300 to 405gr bullets at low velocity for plinking. And, anything I would hunt could be easily taken with a slow moving 300gr. If I go hunting this year, it will be for hogs with my Big Boy in .44 and 200gr hard cast bullets at about 1250fps.

[JEBar]

I wouldn't be interested much in a 525gr bullet in a .45-70 (if I had one), but Hickock45 shoots 500gr loads out of his. The cases are filled with black powder and the pressure is low. I've always wanted a .45-70 since I was a teenager. I'd really love a Uberti reproduction of the Winchester 1885 High Wall. But, I'd be happy with 300 to 405gr bullets at low velocity for plinking. And, anything I would hunt could be easily taken with a slow moving 300gr. If I go hunting this year, it will be for hogs with my Big Boy in .44 and 200gr hard cast bullets at about 1250fps.

realistically, my interest in 500 gr loads is just having a few to have a few .... I think they would be great conversation pieces ..

[tx gunrunner]

This was 1000 yd cast bullet shooter I built . I use a 400 gr bullet I make .





This cartridge was use in Civil War for a sniper rifle . The thin head was the original and the thick head 2 gen. The 3rd gen is modern using 30-40 Krag brass





I make my own bullets and molds

[Squatch]

Look at Beartooth's 405gr LFN GC or their 425 gr 425gr WLN GC.

looked at their link http://beartoothbullets.com/bulletselect/index.htm and found that they offer a 525g WLN GC which they say "For MAXIMUM penetration here's your bullet for .45-70's! Longest, Widest nose possible and still feed through the magazine and action of a Marlin 1895 and Winchester 1886. An amazing bullet! Very accurate. The absolute last word in EXTREME penetration for the .45-70 Gov't., Beartooth Bullets Pile-Driver bullet!" .... to me that is amazing because it goes against the info from most ever other manufacture .... 405 grans has been said to be the largest that the casing can accommodate and meet all specs ....

I wouldn't be interested much in a 525gr bullet in a .45-70 (if I had one), but Hickock45 shoots 500gr loads out of his. The cases are filled with black powder and the pressure is low. I've always wanted a .45-70 since I was a teenager. I'd really love a Uberti reproduction of the Winchester 1885 High Wall. But, I'd be happy with 300 to 405gr bullets at low velocity for plinking. And, anything I would hunt could be easily taken with a slow moving 300gr. If I go hunting this year, it will be for hogs with my Big Boy in .44 and 200gr hard cast bullets at about 1250fps.

I've been loading very low recoil rounds for my 45/70 for about a year now. 300, 350, 405 grain. They all shoot fine and are a blast to shoot. 405 gr over black powder at around 1,200 fps pretty much finished off the buffalo. Not much different from 12 grains of Unique.

[tractortad]

Reading this thread makes me want to get into reloading more than ever - especially with 45-70 - seems like you can load it from mild to wild. Looks like a lot of fun...

[JEBar]

Reading this thread makes me want to get into reloading more than ever - especially with 45-70 - seems like you can load it from mild to wild. Looks like a lot of fun...

you certainly can and I enjoy doing so

[JEBar]

I've been loading very low recoil rounds for my 45/70 for about a year now. 300, 350, 405 grain. They all shoot fine and are a blast to shoot. 405 gr over black powder at around 1,200 fps pretty much finished off the buffalo. Not much different from 12 grains of Unique.

the only long gun I will load with black powder is our Thompson Center Hawken .... no way I'll use it in any of our Henry rifles .... as best I can tell I plan to load and keep 4 levels of 45-70 on hand .... since almost all of our shooting will be paper punching .... for that I plan to find a build a load using the cheapest lead bullet that works well in our Henry out to 100 +/- yards .... I don't care the weight, the cheapest that works the best is my criteria for paper punching and I plan to keep hundreds on hand .... the second will be a round for hunting Deer, Boar, and/or Black Bear at ranges less than 200 yards .... the bullet for that load will be Nosler's 300 gr BST .... I can't envision the need to keep 50 or so on hand .... the third would be a stronger hunting load built around a 405 grain lead bullet .... here again 50 or so on hand .... the 4th group would be built around a 500 or larger grain bullet (if I could find one) .... basically I will do this and keep 50 or so on hand just to have them .... I wish that down the line I would be able to hunt game that would require such ammo but I have no illusions that will ever happen

[Squatch]

I'd like to load a few Black Powder cartridges. Just to try REAL BP loads. But don't want to clean the mess from my Henry. So I doubt that will happen.

Maybe if I buy a single shot. A friend loads BP cartridges in 45 colt. He uses them in a conversion cylinder for his Ruger Old Army.

Most of my loads so far for the 45/70 are probably close to BP power levels.

[tx gunrunner]

I shot BP matches all over the USA and Germany and I found Windex is great for cleaning guns at the range and leave the mess there and spray WD40 on guns for Water Displacement not lube . Dry gun and coat with a light film oil . Auto transmission work good as a cleaner and lube for short term storeage .