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New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by daytime dave » Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:18 am

I happened to see information about S & W introducing some classic guns with no lock. I have just seen a video for three new guns from them. A model 36, a model 10 and a model 19. All with no lock. The 10 and 36 have rounded front sites. The model 19 looked like they used to, so, we will see. I'm happy to see this change at S & W.
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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by Ernie » Sat Jan 18, 2025 1:38 pm

Will have to check them out. Thanks for the information.

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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by rickhem » Sat Jan 18, 2025 1:41 pm

Sounds a lot like what happened with the Series 80 1911s. After Springfield started selling more of their 1911s that did not have the extra firing pin block parts, the industry started swinging back in that direction again.
Let's cross our fingers that this is the first wave of a similar trend.

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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by Mags » Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:42 pm

Similar to the 36, there is a 642 no lock.
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Post by Vaquero » Sat Jan 18, 2025 7:55 pm

I like the 36.

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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by Hatchdog » Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:06 am

This is great. Hillary's long gone so the lock with her name in it should also be long gone.

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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by Mags » Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:18 pm

This article is from 2020.
https://revolverguy.com/the-history-and ... rnal-lock/

Oddly I don't remember the Clinton ban as portrayed that severe. Probably just me. I wasn't much into semi-autos back then.
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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by daytime dave » Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:19 pm

I remember it as a solid S&W fan of old. It almost killed the brand. I have a few, but don't care for them as much. And some of them are great revolvers.
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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by daytime dave » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:37 am

This morning, I see that two versions of the Mountain Gun are coming back, with no lock. Very nice.
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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by Hatchdog » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:13 am

I will admit that I have owned several S&W revolvers with the lock and have never had a problem with them. Rumors are that the lock can engage itself making the gun inoperable and if you didn’t have the key with you no more shooting. Just in case I always carried a key in my range bag. My biggest gripe was with the law itself.

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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by daytime dave » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:56 am

A further look on the S&W and Lipsey's site shows a few more classic named revolvers without locks. Things are definitely looking up.
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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by Mags » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:00 pm

Then there are those who disassembled the gun and removed the hammer locking piece.
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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by GFK » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:41 pm

I haven't thought much about locks or no locks. I guess that I am not a revolver loyalist. I do like a somewhat classic look. Yet, I don't mind a modern twist. I have a 1991 S&W 65 without a lock and a 2020 S&W 360 with a lock. Both shoot fine, and I like them both. Haven't had a lock issue yet. But, I will keep an eye out for such a thing.
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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by BigAl52 » Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:21 am

My 617 and 686 revolvers that I bought last year both look like they have locks but my gunsmith took the locks out when he tuned them. It does make a world of difference. Glad to see these new models released. Hopefully they will be of good quality and not a bunch of them returning for customer service.
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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by 5shot » Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:50 pm

I certainly don't need another .357 revolver but that 686 Mountain Gun kinda calls out to me. Not sure about the 7 shot cylinder though. I'd have to re-program my weary old brain into a ..."There's one more in there"...mode. :? :lol:

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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by North Country Gal » Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:09 am

I never had a problem with the lock, either, and I even had a 460 mag with the lock. I think S&W may be feeling the all the sales they have lost over the years because of the lock, though. About time they addressed it.

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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by BrokenolMarine » Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:50 pm

Mags wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:42 pm
Similar to the 36, there is a 642 no lock.

I love the 642, I have had one for years.
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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by BrokenolMarine » Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:52 pm

daytime dave wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:18 am
I happened to see information about S & W introducing some classic guns with no lock. I have just seen a video for three new guns from them. A model 36, a model 10 and a model 19. All with no lock. The 10 and 36 have rounded front sites. The model 19 looked like they used to, so, we will see. I'm happy to see this change at S & W.
I have a model 64 that I love, it was issued to me out of the academy. When we switched over I bought it from the department. I'm pretty sure it's basically a stainless model 10. :)
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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by daytime dave » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:14 pm

I also saw a video where the models will not have the two piece barrel either.
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Re: New Smith and Wessons with no lock

Post by 5shot » Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:41 am

The barrels will be back to cut rifling instead of the EDM process they have been using recently. I think that will be a big plus for cast bullet shooters.

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