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.44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
Get some 2400 or H-110 and buy some Hornady 240Gr XTP bullets load those up and try them. If it wont shoot those better Id ask for my money back.
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Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
With all the talk of late about the poor accuracy of the 44's, I pulled my '07 made BBB out.
At 50yds and open sights, as mine was made before they d&t'd the receivers. Now this rifle was sent back in Feb. 2020 because the mag tube was tearing away from the barrel.
A lot of changes between '07 and '20, and the mag tube is attached differently so they changed the barrel also. What a surprise when I got it back.
Any way today I had these three left over hand loads and these factory loads that a friend gave me the other day. They are Fed., and assume they are 240 gr. They were jhp's fer sure.

I was leaning on a bag, not bad for old eyes and factory sights.
RP
At 50yds and open sights, as mine was made before they d&t'd the receivers. Now this rifle was sent back in Feb. 2020 because the mag tube was tearing away from the barrel.
A lot of changes between '07 and '20, and the mag tube is attached differently so they changed the barrel also. What a surprise when I got it back.
Any way today I had these three left over hand loads and these factory loads that a friend gave me the other day. They are Fed., and assume they are 240 gr. They were jhp's fer sure.
I was leaning on a bag, not bad for old eyes and factory sights.
RP
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Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
Iād take that bottom group any day given the buckhorn set up. You are in the same boat as me. Mine is a 2015 manufactured BBSC so also has the old style mag tube. Thatās why they are replacing both that and barrel together.
My barrel etc arrived at the warranty depot on Monday, and I emailed the depot guy and Tom Kotz this morning for confirmation that everything is in good shape so I can ship the carbine off. The guy who does Henryās warranty work gets a mix of 4-5 star and mostly 1 star reviews, so this is going to be an interesting experiment. If it goes horribly, Iām going to hold Henry responsible and maybe try to get current cash value for the carbine and buy a new Marlin 1894 insteadā¦
My barrel etc arrived at the warranty depot on Monday, and I emailed the depot guy and Tom Kotz this morning for confirmation that everything is in good shape so I can ship the carbine off. The guy who does Henryās warranty work gets a mix of 4-5 star and mostly 1 star reviews, so this is going to be an interesting experiment. If it goes horribly, Iām going to hold Henry responsible and maybe try to get current cash value for the carbine and buy a new Marlin 1894 insteadā¦
SGC .22 LR Stripped and oiled up
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
Itās at the depot now. Fingers crossedā¦
SGC .22 LR Stripped and oiled up
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
Homeward bound! Should be here on the 5th. Henry sent me a few goodies to cover my shipping cost to the depot, and ship back on their dime. I really hope it shoots my chosen ammo better than the slow twist did. Tom Kotz at Henry has been super helpful and Iād hate for it to be for nothing if it doesnāt shoot.


SGC .22 LR Stripped and oiled up
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
Wow, thatās a nice haul of gear. Hope your new barrel is as awesome! 
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Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
Wishing you all the luck friend.
RP
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Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
I feel like I could have picked more stuff, but unfortunately I think most of Henrys stuff is kind of goofy. Elmer would use a lot of it to hunt wabbits. The cuff fits either .30-30 or .44 so it might end up on my Marlin⦠Would I burn up for putting a Henry leather on a Marlin?
SGC .22 LR Stripped and oiled up
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
Itās back! And the 1-6x Vortex is mounted and laser bore sighted. Got a new Nikon spotter, so all thatās left is time to get to the range!


SGC .22 LR Stripped and oiled up
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
As Im sure you are we all are awaiting those results
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H003T PUMP .22LR
BBS .41 MAG
SS .357
SIDE GATE 38-55
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Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
Good news, now hope it's a shooter.
Anxiously awaiting the range report.
Good luck.
RP
Anxiously awaiting the range report.
Good luck.
RP
Monte Walsh "You have No idea how little I care".
Ain't No Apologies for My Temperament
Si vis pacem, para bellum
H001, H006, H012
Ain't No Apologies for My Temperament
Si vis pacem, para bellum
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Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
One big hole baby! 
Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
Iāll post up when I get to the range. Hopefully in the next couple of weeks.
SGC .22 LR Stripped and oiled up
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
Well, I finally got some range time today. I think the new barrel is a winner, but my new scope mounts are junk! I was all over the place again, but not like before. I got some flashes of potential, then put the .44 down to let the barrel cool, and next round it was consistently shooting elsewhere. I also shot my wifeās new .270 Weatherby and my freshly scoped SGC in.22LR. I honestly left thinking āscrew these dang Henrys!ā, as neither one was doing anything good. In the end, I figured the rings on my .44 were not tightening properly (They are QD rings), I ordered a new set of quality rings that are not QD, so Iāll give it one more chance. The cost of ammo is starting to piss me off though. I had the .44 good on Federal and then when I went to dial in my $70 for 20 hunting rounds, it went to pieces and I shot most of a box before finding the loose mounts. Ugh.
SGC .22 LR Stripped and oiled up
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
I went back out to the shop and had a look at my targets. The 55 yard one shows promise. The 100 yard (with some .270 sprinkled in) isnāt horrible, given the wind and shifty scope mounts. I think with a bit more time and ammo, I might get it to a happy place.




SGC .22 LR Stripped and oiled up
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
Sometimes we just like a dog chasing its tail. Hope you get the kinks worked out of that 44. Itās been a journey for you for sure.
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Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
Glad it's coming along Red, I'm betting the new rings will make a big difference.
Yep, 44 ammo can be pricey, wish you were closer we'd reload some and see what we could figure out.
I can't even remember the last time I shot my 44 rifle.
RP
Yep, 44 ammo can be pricey, wish you were closer we'd reload some and see what we could figure out.
I can't even remember the last time I shot my 44 rifle.
RP
Monte Walsh "You have No idea how little I care".
Ain't No Apologies for My Temperament
Si vis pacem, para bellum
H001, H006, H012
Ain't No Apologies for My Temperament
Si vis pacem, para bellum
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Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
Yeah, I hope it comes together. I have two sets of furniture for the .44 and the fore end has a bit of play, so I thought the slight rattle / slop I felt was that. Glad I figured out it was rings too.
I shot the last of my hand loads yesterday too. I have some American Eagle cheap stuff, but itās my hunting ammo thatās pricey. I was close with the cheap stuff, but of course ended up blowing a $70 box of hunting loads trying to sort it out. I should learn that if itās going sideways after 5 shots, itāll still be sideways after 15ā¦
I shot the last of my hand loads yesterday too. I have some American Eagle cheap stuff, but itās my hunting ammo thatās pricey. I was close with the cheap stuff, but of course ended up blowing a $70 box of hunting loads trying to sort it out. I should learn that if itās going sideways after 5 shots, itāll still be sideways after 15ā¦
SGC .22 LR Stripped and oiled up
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
So some more rounds have gone down the tube. Itās relatively good with 240 gr American Eagke JHPs (I feel confident it will be in 2 moa), and then I shoot my 225 gr Barnes VOR-TX hunting rounds, and it is literally off the paper at 50 yards. This is, in laymanās terms, a load of shhhh it. I just ordered some 270 gr Federal Hammer Downs. If it wonāt shoot them, Iām done. Iām going to sell it and order a new Marlin Trapper in .30-30 Win. At least Iāll have lots of ammo to go with the .44 BBSC. Iām disappointed as my .357 Mag BBSC is a tack driver.
SGC .22 LR Stripped and oiled up
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
Re: .44 twist rate vs bullet weight?
Reading a bit more on the Hammer Down ammo this morning⦠It was co-designed with Henry, so if it doesnāt work, there are no more excuses. It seems to favor the heavier bullets now, so the .270 grains should help. Performance stats (claims) are certainly positive.
SGC .22 LR Stripped and oiled up
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
BBSC .357 w Skinner Express & Patridge
BBSC .44 Magnum with Skinners
Marlin 1895GS .45-70 w RPP Cloverleaf
Marlin 336BL .30-30 w Skinner LoPro 2 and Sig 2-7x
1912 Winchester 1894 .30 WCF
