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Re: Some BP questions

Post by fortyshooter » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:58 pm

Wow you can reach out and touch something with that big boy! Want to see some 4 ft target shots with that one!! :D
I have a bunch of that Alliant Black MZ which does give you the smoke but not the mellow boom and flame like the real BP.
Clean up is easy though and won't corrode as much.

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Re: Some BP questions

Post by RanchRoper » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:02 pm

Ya there is Pyrodex, Triple 7, and Alliant all readily available and can ship.

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Re: Some BP questions

Post by Team Roper » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:20 pm

I shoot both percussion and Flint but I am way more accurate with my 50 cal. Percussions. If I was just getting one muzzy, it would be a percussion. At rendezvous, that's mostly what you'll see in their competitions, percussions.

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Re: Some BP questions

Post by RanchRoper » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:06 pm

Done deal; ordered it. .50 cal Frontier in the link above, browned barrel, and an extra fiberglass ramrod.

Couple months from Pedersoli, and this guy has no license issues like the high wall guy!!! He has a shipment arriving this week with over 40 rifles in it, but no caplocks this time. He says it's hard to stock these old timers because so many variations, and everyone is particular about what they want.

Look forward to some fun with it.

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Re: Some BP questions

Post by BigAl52 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:27 pm

You will love it RR I know you will. But when you do get to Calgary do buy a couple LBs of 3fg if they have it. 2F will work to. Theres nothin like the boom of real black and the smell of that smoke.
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Re: Some BP questions

Post by RanchRoper » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:43 pm

For sure.

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Re: Some BP questions

Post by RanchRoper » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:27 am

So measuring by volume, a .50 cal lead ball.....start with .50 gr of Pyrodex or BP and go up from there correct?

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Re: Some BP questions

Post by BigAl52 » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:13 am

Is pyrodex gonna be your choice to start with RR?
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Post by BigAl52 » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:14 am

Don't let the old man in


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Post by RanchRoper » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:30 am

Yes I will try Pyrodex, and thanks for the article.

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Re: Some BP questions

Post by BigAl52 » Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:02 am

Get some .490 balls some .015 and some .018 patches. Dont get the lubed patches. You can use spit as a patch lube if you want to go real old school but I use the Hoppes Black Powder lube and cleaner. Theres also other recipes with Ballistol and water ect. Its just a use what works for you deal. Pedersoli guns also have what they call a patent breech. You will want to get a smaller brush for your ramrod to get into that area to get it clean. If you do a search of that breech you will see what I mean
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Re: Some BP questions

Post by RanchRoper » Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:23 am

Will make a trip to Cabelas in Calgary sometime soon. Looks like they have BP supplies. Bass Pro is nearby too. Small shop there has BP as well.

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Re: Some BP questions

Post by RanchRoper » Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:39 am

I see the breech in some stuff I looked up. Some guys say it flushes with water during cleaning. Others use a small jag and patch.

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Re: Some BP questions

Post by Team Roper » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:48 am

"Track of the Wolf " sells many Black Powder supplies. I had a Pedersoli and you need a special jag for cleaning the breech. It can get carboned up pretty good and just water and soap or even Ballistol won't remove it. You need to put the breech jag on the rod and twist. Some Breech jags have round ends, some have straight scraping ends.I know my Pedersoli and my Lymans take different jags.

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Re: Some BP questions

Post by RanchRoper » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:59 am

Good info. Thks

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Re: Some BP questions

Post by RanchRoper » Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:24 pm

This was on special at October Country, just ordered it this morning...elk bag...gets me started...most of the other stuff is available in Calgary...

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Re: Some BP questions

Post by BigAl52 » Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:35 pm

Nice bag and horn RR. I dont have a horn but I have enough Stuff
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Re: Some BP questions

Post by RanchRoper » Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:36 pm

I can never seem to have enough stuff...:)...wife is the same unfortunately.

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Re: Some BP questions

Post by RanchRoper » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:28 pm

Found this: info on patched round ball on last page.

https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... l_2008.pdf

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Re: Some BP questions

Post by RanchRoper » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:35 am

Here's something crazy...ordered a couple of antler handle items from Texas...nipple pick and a ball starter...maybe $25 total....requires a wildlife permit to ship to here...$100 extra....obviously canceled order.

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