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Re: Our Morning Coffee and Weather

Post by Grunt67 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:07 pm

I like that 4198, and use quite a bit, 35 Rem. 30-30, and 25-20.
Probably 5, or 6 lbs of it around here at the moment.
A friend of mine gave me his 4198 load for the 444, but I have yet to try it.

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I'm going to use it in my 45/70 ( when I actually get it, later , ( finances, LOL ). Did a bunch of research on it, plus reading what our buds here had to say, so decided to go with that, at least to start. Thinking 41 grs, as a mid range load, & go from there if needed.
Give me your opinion, you may have a better idea than me.
I bought 50 pcs of Starline brass, 50 Hornady 300 gr. HP bullets. Brass needs a bit of trimming, got the holder & pilot for that.
Then ran into an issue I wasn't expecting. I have a Forster Co-Ax press, that uses jaws to clamp the brass, as opposed to the standard shell holder. Turned out the jaws aren't big enough for the 45/70, so had to order that ( waiting ). Always something, LOL.

Plus, my PC crashed last nite, had to restore that, whew!!! Other that that, everything is just peachy, LOL
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Re: Our Morning Coffee and Weather

Post by JEBar » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:14 pm

PT7 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:39 pm
JEBar wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:05 am
its 71 right now on the Colorado River near Columbus, TX .... at our destination today in Granbury, TX its currently 58 degrees and they are calling for that to be the high for today ....
Have you guys done the factory tour of the Bond Arms factory in Granbury? It would be cool to see how/where they build their O/U hand cannons, Jim. :)
called them this morning .... they do provide tours but require them to be scheduled 2 weeks .... with us being here only 2 days, its a no-go .... if you remind me next year and we come back to Granbury, I'll try again to book a tour

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Re: Our Morning Coffee and Weather

Post by PT7 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:26 pm

JEBar wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:14 pm
PT7 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:39 pm
Have you guys done the factory tour of the Bond Arms factory in Granbury? It would be cool to see how/where they build their O/U hand cannons, Jim. :)
called them this morning .... they do provide tours but require them to be scheduled 2 weeks .... with us being here only 2 days, its a no-go .... if you remind me next year and we come back to Granbury, I'll try again to book a tour
:(

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Re: Our Morning Coffee and Weather

Post by JEBar » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:38 pm

PT7 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:26 pm
JEBar wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:14 pm
PT7 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:39 pm
Have you guys done the factory tour of the Bond Arms factory in Granbury? It would be cool to see how/where they build their O/U hand cannons, Jim. :)
called them this morning .... they do provide tours but require them to be scheduled 2 weeks .... with us being here only 2 days, its a no-go .... if you remind me next year and we come back to Granbury, I'll try again to book a tour
:(

must admit that I was a bit surprised

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Re: Our Morning Coffee and Weather

Post by Vaquero » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:43 pm

Grunt67 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:07 pm
I like that 4198, and use quite a bit, 35 Rem. 30-30, and 25-20.
Probably 5, or 6 lbs of it around here at the moment.
A friend of mine gave me his 4198 load for the 444, but I have yet to try it.

RP
I'm going to use it in my 45/70 ( when I actually get it, later , ( finances, LOL ). Did a bunch of research on it, plus reading what our buds here had to say, so decided to go with that, at least to start. Thinking 41 grs, as a mid range load, & go from there if needed.
Give me your opinion, you may have a better idea than me.
I bought 50 pcs of Starline brass, 50 Hornady 300 gr. HP bullets. Brass needs a bit of trimming, got the holder & pilot for that.
Then ran into an issue I wasn't expecting. I have a Forster Co-Ax press, that uses jaws to clamp the brass, as opposed to the standard shell holder. Turned out the jaws aren't big enough for the 45/70, so had to order that ( waiting ). Always something, LOL.

Plus, my PC crashed last nite, had to restore that, whew!!! Other that that, everything is just peachy, LOL
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No 45-70 here so I have no idea where to start.
There are others here that do, sure some one can throw you a bone on that one.

RP
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Post by Ojaileveraction » Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:00 pm

I'm going to use it in my 45/70 ( when I actually get it, later , ( finances, LOL ). Did a bunch of research on it, plus reading what our buds here had to say, so decided to go with that, at least to start. Thinking 41 grs, as a mid range load, & go from there if needed.
41gr of H4198 is below Honady's listed 42.3 min for 300gr up. In their Lever Action data, and Hodgdon has 45g of IMR and H 4198 for 300g hp in their trapdoor data.
I was happy with a 29-30g load using a coated 300g cast lead bullet.
31g was to stiff for me to do much shooting.
Getting into that 1350-1400 fps any shots going beyond 200yds lost stability and started tubleing.
I can shoot the 12-1300fps 500 meters.
Bullets need to be 350-405g for that distance.

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Re: Our Morning Coffee and Weather

Post by dasmoeturhead » Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:27 am

32° and the snow 2-4 inches supposedly is on the way. Got out yesterday and shot 50 rds of my
.45 acp hand loads. What a blast. 2 water jugs bit the dust. As a bonus, I actually found all the spent brass. Cheers all!
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Re: Our Morning Coffee and Weather

Post by Vaquero » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:20 am

Morning, 38° with a light rain this AM.
Good deal, yep finding all that brass from a semi auto can be challenging.

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Re: Our Morning Coffee and Weather

Post by dasmoeturhead » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:31 am

Vaquero wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:20 am
Morning, 38° with a light rain this AM.
Good deal, yep finding all that brass from a semi auto can be challenging.

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Post by cooperhawk » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:35 am

Forty degrees and rain in Memphis this AM. Leaving for Vicksburg i8n a while.
But it's not snow!
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Post by BigAl52 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:54 am

5 deg here this am. Supposed to be 36 today. Had some snow late yesterday and a little overnight. They say 50 by the weekend Im not countin on it.
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Post by Ojaileveraction » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:02 am

finding all that brass from a semi auto can be challenging
The tyranny of reloading.

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Post by Hatchdog » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:01 am

18* and supposed to be 40. That’s been an empty promise all week, we are barely getting to the mid 30’s. Beautiful sunshine but step into the shade and you will button up! Tried to knock some snow berms down but they were still frozen solid. I have a gravel driveway so when I plow some gravel gets moved. I try to get it back on the gravel area not on the lawn or the natural areas before the berms melt.

Folgers and a nice fire now and later I’m taking my wife to town for a dentist appt. Nice day for it.

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Post by JEBar » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:23 am

43 (feels like 38) this morning in Granbury, TX on its way to 51 later today .... good to see some blue sky to our north .... they are calling for it to get down to 30 tonight .... if it does, it will be the first time we've experienced subfreezing temps on this trip .... eggs, sausage, tomato, Folgers for breakfast

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Re: Our Morning Coffee and Weather

Post by Grunt67 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:31 am

Here in Mid Tenn. it's snow & rain at the same time ( snaining? ). Is that a new word, LOL . 36 deg. not gonna stick, but pretty to watch.
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Re: Our Morning Coffee and Weather

Post by markiver54 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:49 am

Down here to your south, it's snowing, but not sticking. ( Snelting ).😁
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Post by Mags » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:02 pm

We got 'Sunning' in the TV today.
31 currently. Maybe 56 later.
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Post by Vaquero » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:37 pm

Grunt67 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:31 am
Here in Mid Tenn. it's snow & rain at the same time ( snaining? ). Is that a new word, LOL . 36 deg. not gonna stick, but pretty to watch.
Same thing here Grunt and the temp has actually gone down verses up. :o
Don't think it'll make the predicted high at this rate.

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Re: Our Morning Coffee and Weather

Post by Grunt67 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:18 pm

Vaquero wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:37 pm
Grunt67 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:31 am
Here in Mid Tenn. it's snow & rain at the same time ( snaining? ). Is that a new word, LOL . 36 deg. not gonna stick, but pretty to watch.
Same thing here Grunt and the temp has actually gone down verses up. :o
Don't think it'll make the predicted high at this rate.

RP
It's gone up to 37 now, ( heat wave ). Got family coming in from Tulsa, in Jackson,TN now @ Cracker BBL.
Despite all that, my grass is creeping back from the dead. Be cutting grass in another month, or less.
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Re: Our Morning Coffee and Weather

Post by Vaquero » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:35 pm

Grunt67 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:18 pm
Vaquero wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:37 pm
Grunt67 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:31 am
Here in Mid Tenn. it's snow & rain at the same time ( snaining? ). Is that a new word, LOL . 36 deg. not gonna stick, but pretty to watch.
Same thing here Grunt and the temp has actually gone down verses up. :o
Don't think it'll make the predicted high at this rate.

RP
It's gone up to 37 now, ( heat wave ). Got family coming in from Tulsa, in Jackson,TN now @ Cracker BBL.
Despite all that, my grass is creeping back from the dead. Be cutting grass in another month, or less.
Wish I had known you were coming into Jackson, would have tried to meet up for a quick howdy.
About to head south to Bolivar in a few minutes.

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