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Re: Semi Auto vs O/U for recoil reduction?

Post by ESquared » Sun May 12, 2019 8:02 am

I don't know what pricing does as it crosses the border, but here's the Beretta equivalent of the Mossberg, but in black. In US $$, a couple hundred more, but who knows what your dealer up there might be able to do?

https://grabagun.com/beretta-a300-outla ... syn-3.html
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Re: Semi Auto vs O/U for recoil reduction?

Post by Rifletom » Sun May 12, 2019 10:28 pm

That's a pretty good price on that Beretta Evan. I'm going to send over a picture of my 930.

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Re: Semi Auto vs O/U for recoil reduction?

Post by Redthies » Mon May 13, 2019 1:41 am

ESquared wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 8:02 am
I don't know what pricing does as it crosses the border...
We definitely get hit by import fees etc. The dollar is about 30% different right now, so $1000 CDN is +/- $700 USD. If I could get a basic 930 in matte black and 26” barrel it would run $599 CDN at Cabela’s here, which is $400 USD. That’s a great price, but not the gun I want. The pics below show Cabela’s offerings, and Reliable Gun is a friend of mines store.
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Re: Semi Auto vs O/U for recoil reduction?

Post by Redthies » Mon May 13, 2019 1:46 am

I wrote an email to Mossberg tonight asking them to help me find one of the Turkey/Field models in Canada. It will be interesting to see how their customer service is. I really wish Henry made a 12 gauge semi auto right about now...

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Re: Semi Auto vs O/U for recoil reduction?

Post by ESquared » Mon May 13, 2019 8:45 am

That's a pretty good looking line-up to choose from, but, man, does that Beretta end up being expensive! From what's shown above, what direction are you headed?
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Post by ESquared » Mon May 13, 2019 9:29 am

If the Grab-A-Gun "formula" for Canada is GAG's price + $250 to export, wouldn't that bring the Beretta A300 in at about $900 (US)?
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Post by ESquared » Mon May 13, 2019 3:35 pm

Just for comparison's sake, Tom had me post the picture below, of his Mossberg 930 "Duck Commander" (GREAT name for a shotgun!), now discontinued. I'm guessing 28" bbl, but not exactly sure. Tom can fill in answers to any questions. FYI, picture taken before the Pink Towel phenomenon, so no penalty assessed!
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Post by Rifletom » Mon May 13, 2019 5:31 pm

LOL! No penalty. Funny! Yes, 28" barrel, the retainer is steel. Simple as any other gas gun to take apart and clean and re-assemble. Shoots ANY type of 12ga. Light target, Wal-mart delights, upland anything. Everything. No hiccups as of yet.
Probably 2,000+ rounds thru it. It was only offered, as far as I know, thru Bud's. And only for a short time. I've heard issue's with other 930's, tho those always seem to be the "tactical" version[?] with the extended mag-tube and fast firing. Don't know for sure. Mine has been solid since day one. I don't use it as much as some shot gunners, but, so far, so good.

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Post by Redthies » Mon May 13, 2019 11:22 pm

There is actually a new Duck Commander model for sale near me. They are wanting $959 CDN for it. I did find a shop in AZ that ships stuff to Canada monthly, and they can get the one I want for $661 USD to my door. That’s $890 CDN. My one local guy heard back his Mossberg rep today, and thinks he can get me one. He’s just waiting to confirm. If he can’t get it, I may go check out the DC model.
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Re: Semi Auto vs O/U for recoil reduction?

Post by Rifletom » Tue May 14, 2019 9:06 am

I do like my 930, but, that Beretta is hard to beat. Too dang bad it's expensive where you're at. Hopefully, if you do buy the 930, it will be as reliable as mine. Good to hear they're are some still available.
Edit: Evan, I'm sending over an improved picture. Just to make sure no late penalties involved! :shock:

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Re: Semi Auto vs O/U for recoil reduction?

Post by ESquared » Tue May 14, 2019 9:18 am

Rifletom wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 9:06 am
I do like my 930, but, that Beretta is hard to beat. Too dang bad it's expensive where you're at. Hopefully, if you do buy the 930, it will be as reliable as mine. Good to hear they're are some still available.
Edit: Evan, I'm sending over an improved picture. Just to make sure no late penalties involved! :shock:
Bring it! I'll get it posted and the "No harm/No foul" rule is in effect!
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Post by ESquared » Tue May 14, 2019 9:22 am

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Re: Semi Auto vs O/U for recoil reduction?

Post by Redthies » Tue May 14, 2019 12:20 pm

The “new” Duck Commander 930 local to me is fully camouflaged. I kind of like yours with the barrel and receiver in blue. I think I’m going to stick to my guns (see what I did there?) and get what I want. They quoted me $699 for the Turkey/Field gun yesterday, but as I mentioned, I think that was for an 835 which is a pump. I said if he can get the 930 for $699 CDN, I’d take two! Hopefully the rep gets the correct price to us today. My apprentice is going to buy (trade for wages) my 500, so I’m 1/2 way there.
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Re: Semi Auto vs O/U for recoil reduction?

Post by Redthies » Mon May 20, 2019 12:58 am

I found a store in Arizona that has export permits in place, and will ship the 930 Turkey/Field to my door for $21 over list price. It’s probably as good a deal as I’ll find, but I’m going to give my local guy another week to see if he can get one ordered up. I’ve got until June 10th to order for the next batch they are shipping north of the line...
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Re: Semi Auto vs O/U for recoil reduction?

Post by Redthies » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:07 pm

Well, it’s the 10th, and I “pulled the trigger”. I found these guys after talking to a guy at Cabela’s gun counter. He couldn’t get what I wanted, but recommended AZTech. The price below is imported and shipped to my door. I looked at other import companies and they wanted $250 USD per gun. At that cost, it’s like I paid $329 for the shotgun. A far cry from the MSRP of $640.00! They only import in batches (which is why they don’t charge $250 per gun), so mine will arrive in mid July with the next shipment. Hunting season doesn’t open until September so I’m good with the timeline.

I did go and handle a tactical style 930 at a local shop recently, and I was happy with the solidity of the action etc. It’s no Henry, but it’ll do. I also met a fellow Land Cruiser owner and during our conversation the fact that he works at a range came up. He said of all the semi auto shotguns they rent (pretty much all of them), the Mossbergs are near the top of the heap for reliability in that abusive environment.

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Re: Semi Auto vs O/U for recoil reduction?

Post by JEBar » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:23 pm

it should serve you well ..... looking forward to following your reviews as you become better acquainted with it

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Post by Redthies » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:07 am

Thanks JEBar. I’m really hoping it takes a big bite out of the recoil. Having faster follow-up shots on birds will be nice too!
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Post by ESquared » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:36 am

That's a screaming good deal, congrats on finding it! Give the guy at Cabela's an "attaboy," too, for giving you the lead. Look forward to hearing how you like it and how it does for you during this year's season(s)!

Congrats in advance again!
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Post by Redthies » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:24 am

My new shotty should arrive in country on Monday. To say I’m getting excited would be an understatement. I’ll be posting some pics shortly after it arrives!
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Re: Semi Auto vs O/U for recoil reduction?

Post by Mags » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:55 am

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I'm with you, can't wait to see it!
Redthies wrote:
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My new shotty should arrive in country on Monday. To say I’m getting excited would be an understatement. I’ll be posting some pics shortly after it arrives!
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