Henrys Original

[Mags]

... and it looks like Dina in HenryCS shut that down.

[BigAl52]

Ya the guy dont have anything else to say I know hes been on there and seen it.

[Travlin]

Guns Of The Old West Summer 2018 issue. There is a photo of the original 1860 Henry Rifle serial # 8261 that was disassembled to reverse -engineer the tooling for the H.R.A. model of that rifle. The only notable change was a slight lengthening of the action to use the centerfire cartridge.

[dddrees]

Just another little tid bit for those that might be interested. I find it interesting that the Winchester Yellow Boy or 1866 I received back from Winchester last week that had been polished has already started to get a patina and the New Original Henry that I got more than a couple of months ago is still as shiny as the day I got it. I don't know how the brass alloy is on a Uberti but there certainly seems to be something different about the brass alloy that Henry uses.

[Mistered]

I don't know how the brass alloy is on a Uberti but there certainly seems to be something different about the brass allow that Henry uses.

I found the following on another site with regard to Henry brass frame question:

The brass receiver is probably cast from a brass alloy similar to "ships brass" which is 70% copper and 30% zinc. The copper gives it the goldish color. Compare to softer "cartridge brass" which is 60/40 Cu/Zn. So I'd call both a copper alloy since greatest percent in the alloy. The density of iron(cold steel) is about 7.9 compared to the density of copper 9.0 and Zn 7.1 so if weight of the brass model is higher then there has to be high amount of copper in the alloy if it was more zinc it would actually be lighter than steel.

[dddrees]

I don't know how the brass alloy is on a Uberti but there certainly seems to be something different about the brass allow that Henry uses.

I found the following on another site with regard to Henry brass frame question:

The brass receiver is probably cast from a brass alloy similar to "ships brass" which is 70% copper and 30% zinc. The copper gives it the goldish color. Compare to softer "cartridge brass" which is 60/40 Cu/Zn. So I'd call both a copper alloy since greatest percent in the alloy. The density of iron(cold steel) is about 7.9 compared to the density of copper 9.0 and Zn 7.1 so if weight of the brass model is higher then there has to be high amount of copper in the alloy if it was more zinc it would actually be lighter than steel.

Thanks



It's very easy to wipe or shine the Henry with a soft cloth but with the Winchester 1866 soft cloth alone will not bring back the shine or clean the patina off of the Winchester. Just two diffrent animals entirely.

[Mistered]

I'll gamble on the Henry brass being of a harder composition.

[dddrees]

I'll gamble on the Henry brass being of a harder composition.

Well considering my Winchester Miroku 1866 supports 38s only I would think your right. The Uberti version of the 1866 supports 38 only as well based on what I saw on Taylors website. The Winchester Miroku 1873 on the other hand is 357\38 but then again the reciever is steel and not their brass alloy. This to me is another indication that Uberti is probably not supplying parts to Henry Repeating Arms Co. At least not the brass alloy anyway. Anything is possible but it seems to me if Uberti were able to make a better alloy they might want to also use it themselves.

[BigRooster616]

As a SASS Shooter for many years .
I own Uberti rifles in 1860 1866 1873's .
I can tell you Beyond a shadow of doubt.
The HRA 1860 is NOT a Uberti.
I own both 1860's and they are very different Rifles altogether.
Love then both for different reasons.
So saith the Rooster

[bspaulding]

New to this forum so don't know where I should be...

I inherited my Great Grandfather's HENRY .44 rimfire and am trying to decide what to do with it. It has been in a safe for the least 70 years I know of and I understand it may be of value.

It is serial number 3002 but that is all I can determine, My Grandfather told me it was his Dad's and purchased in Sacramento CA in the 1860's. They moved back east somewhere (Illinois???) then settled in Hemet CA. 40 years ago I took it to a gun dealer in San Francisco to be restored and they said to keep it as it was as the screws etc. were original and had never been touched.

According to the New Haven Arms website the riffle was produced in September of 1863

Does anybody have any further info on this piece?

Thanks, Bill

[BigAl52]

Sure would be nice to see a picture of it. How is the overall condition of it? Is the bore still in good condition? If so you have a highly collectable piece there and I am sure it would bring alot of money if sold. Not saying at all thats what you intend on doing but congratulations on receiving it. That would be a very neat inheritance. Welcome to the forum glad you joined us. Im sure others will chime in.

[North Country Gal]

I always fall back on the "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" (ECREE) principle popularized by Carl Sagan when one of these trolls uses second and third hand heresay evidence to make an extraordinary claim. Not buying this Henry made by Uberti nonsense at all.

[RanchRoper]

They are 2 different rifles 100%.

Gardone Italy is a long way from New Jersey....

[JEBar]

call Henry and give them whatever info they require .... it may well have been made prior to the founding of today's Henry Repeating Arms in 1996 but I tend to believe they probably have a good knowledge of prior years