Just starting to consider getting one

[Mistered]

At this point I simply don't have enough knowledge about it to even seriously consider it. If it's that good I wouldn't mind hearing more about.

Well, something like the 'original' Navy replica Henry wouldn't be for everyone as there is little known about them due to their scarcity and probably few to no parts available. The owner will have to be familiar with out of production guns and will need to have some gunsmithing skills. I suspect being made in the time frame they were and by a well known 'name' they are probably not bad but it would still be a crapshoot.
I own several older guns but they are not particularly rare so parts are not unobtainable.

[dddrees]

... was hoping to hear a bit more from people here about some of the details first.

sorry I don't have anything to offer to aid your search. However, I do love hearing about your journey to get there. From the other contributors its got me looking at their suggestions and reading about the various rifles. One thing that caught my eye on the New Henry Original. The description of the brass models state that the brass alloy used is as strong as steel. I thought that impressive.

I’ve conducted a number of searches via google and there are numerous comparisons between the Winchester Miroku 1873 and Uberti 1873. These of course aren’t the Henry but I imagine these would be a good representation of how these two gunmakers go about producing their guns in general. Problem is I haven’t really come across much with regards to the New Original Henry and how it compares to the others with exception of the video posted in this thread and a few YouTube videos. Hickock45 videos are in general entertaining but generally provide little when it comes to the finer details with regards to materials actually being used for instance.

The brass alloy sounds Ok to me, but the use of MIM parts are somehow off putting to me as well as their bluing. The caliber would be a inconvenience of sort since I have no intention to use it for anything specific than target practice and the cost would be a bit prohibited. A few times a year would be Ok given how many other guns I have, it just would be inconvenient. However if I were convinced or it appealed to me in such a manner that I thought it special enough then I would have little problem choosing it. I’m starting to revisit the Winchester 1866 2018 Shot Show version. It’s supposed to have a Walnut IV or V grade stock and it’s in 38 special which I already shoot in a few revolvers I own. The pictures of their stock posted on their website don’t look as good as the Henry but the stock isn’t everything just something I would really like as one of those things I want.

[dddrees]

At this point I simply don't have enough knowledge about it to even seriously consider it. If it's that good I wouldn't mind hearing more about.

Well, something like the 'original' Navy replica Henry wouldn't be for everyone as there is little known about them due to their scarcity and probably few to no parts available. The owner will have to be familiar with out of production guns and will need to have some gunsmithing skills. I suspect being made in the time frame they were and by a well known 'name' they are probably not bad but it would still be a crapshoot.
I own several older guns but they are not particularly rare so parts are not unobtainable.

At this point I own only two older guns but both are 22s and from my understanding parts are still available.

But given your description and the fact I’m mechanically inept then this isn’t the gun for me. Thanks for clearing that up.

[dddrees]

50 yds. Open sights. My 1860 paper shredder. No question about Uberti performance.

From my understanding there was little doubt that the Ubertis were anything be great functioning rifles. My issues however would be with buggered screws and that red stock, somehow neither of these appeal to me.

[RanchRoper]

Buy this rifle and I'll sell you my Henry .44 Rimfire cartridge, problem is you only get 1 shot at the range so make it count....

https://merzantiques.com/product/w761-h ... ion-rifle/

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[Mistered]

But given your description and the fact I’m mechanically inept then this isn’t the gun for me. Thanks for clearing that up.

Yea the Navy would probably be a great gun - but as a collector's item/curiosity for a poor gun collector (but pretty good 'novice' gunsmith') like me!
While rare they don't seem to be commanding outrageous prices and like I said if I were close to the seller (and could physically look/handle it) I would most likely take it - for no other reasons than the interest in levers I have and that of the discussions of others on this forum about them. (I am quirky in this manner with guns!)

[ESquared]

I like tracking these kinds of posts, too, because what ends up being uncovered are all the trade-offs and what comes to the surface is what's really important to the buyer. Been there, done that, as have probably the rest of you. Caliber vs. receiver finish vs. wood vs. MIM vs. customer support vs. parts/service vs. ammo availability/pricing. And, now it looks like there are 3-4 rifles in the mix.
This kind of thing leads me to lots of "sleep on it" before deciding. It's when you wake up and are still torn between This and That . . .THEN it gets crazy!
Good luck and keep us posted. As you can tell, I'm absolutely no help in your decision. Just a supportive peanut gallery!

[RanchRoper]

You can do a nice 360 view of the Uberti here; all this talk about the 1860's makes me want to put an iron frame one on the Xmas list....maybe 44.40 this time around

https://www.cimarron-firearms.com/1860- ... arrel.html

[dddrees]

I like tracking these kinds of posts, too, because what ends up being uncovered are all the trade-offs and what comes to the surface is what's really important to the buyer. Been there, done that, as have probably the rest of you. Caliber vs. receiver finish vs. wood vs. MIM vs. customer support vs. parts/service vs. ammo availability/pricing. And, now it looks like there are 3-4 rifles in the mix.
This kind of thing leads me to lots of "sleep on it" before deciding. It's when you wake up and are still torn between This and That . . .THEN it gets crazy!
Good luck and keep us posted. As you can tell, I'm absolutely no help in your decision. Just a supportive peanut gallery!

There have been times when to many trade offs end up being something that’s just not worth it to begin with. If that’s the case then that’s fine as well. I just like knowing what those details are before hand.

[dddrees]

You can do a nice 360 view of the Uberti here; all this talk about the 1860's makes me want to put an iron frame one on the Xmas list....maybe 44.40 this time around

https://www.cimarron-firearms.com/1860- ... arrel.html

Thank you

[dddrees]

Buy this rifle and I'll sell you my Henry .44 Rimfire cartridge, problem is you only get 1 shot at the range so make it count....

https://merzantiques.com/product/w761-h ... ion-rifle/

20180422_132819_resized.jpg

Frankly no matter the cost I have no interest in strictly dust collectors at this point. I wouldn’t want to ruin a collector, but I do want to shoot whatever I get and I have been told that ammo might be hard to get a hold of. Oh, and for that amount that might mean I would have to give up a few other hobbies so I think not. LOL

[Mistered]

I have been told that ammo might be hard to get a hold of.

Yea its probably a bit hard to find......
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detai ... ammunition

[RanchRoper]

Best of luck with your decision. All this 'ol cowpuncher can say is that I love mine. In fact, I think I'll go shoot it today!

[dddrees]

I like tracking these kinds of posts, too, because what ends up being uncovered are all the trade-offs and what comes to the surface is what's really important to the buyer. Been there, done that, as have probably the rest of you. Caliber vs. receiver finish vs. wood vs. MIM vs. customer support vs. parts/service vs. ammo availability/pricing. And, now it looks like there are 3-4 rifles in the mix.
This kind of thing leads me to lots of "sleep on it" before deciding. It's when you wake up and are still torn between This and That . . .THEN it gets crazy!
Good luck and keep us posted. As you can tell, I'm absolutely no help in your decision. Just a supportive peanut gallery!

I have been knocking this one around for awhile. But the idea of a real nice lever gun somehow appeals to me but it has been a bit frustrating. At one point I had decided on a Winchester but that is before I saw the New Original Henry. It looks sweet but at this point that seems only skin deep. These decisions where you know it when you see it are just so much easier. The S&W 41 is one that comes to mind. I just knew it and sure enough it’s absolutely perfect for me.

[dddrees]

Best of luck with your decision. All this 'ol cowpuncher can say is that I love mine. In fact, I think I'll go shoot it today!

I imagine you do and congrats. If however you have the time and care to provide any details as to why you made your choice I would appreciate it greatly.

[RanchRoper]

Here's some of the info I posted when I ordered the rifle. I had a Henry Big Boy in 45 Colt at the time. Great rifle, but I wanted an 1860. After much research, I chose the Uberti from Cimarron not just on price difference but I have a gunsmith an hour away who is a dealer for Cimarron as well. Never saw or held an HRA one, but the wood & brass on the Cimarron looks to me (my opinion only) more true to the original vintage rifles you see on auction sites. And Uberti's are prominent in period correct western movies such as Lonesome Dove, Tombstone, and other westerns. They do not have the trap door in the brass butt anymore, likely cost savings but I can forgive that while saving a thousand bucks over the HRA one. Good luck, shoot safe & often. RR

http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2188

[dddrees]

Here's some of the info I posted when I ordered the rifle. I had a Henry Big Boy in 45 Colt at the time. Great rifle, but I wanted an 1860. After much research, I chose the Uberti from Cimarron not just on price difference but I have a gunsmith an hour away who is a dealer for Cimarron as well. Never saw or held an HRA one, but the wood & brass on the Cimarron looks to me (my opinion only) more true to the original vintage rifles you see on auction sites. And Uberti's are prominent in period correct western movies such as Lonesome Dove, Tombstone, and other westerns. They do not have the trap door in the brass butt anymore, likely cost savings but I can forgive that while saving a thousand bucks over the HRA one. Good luck, shoot safe & often. RR

http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2188

These are the major draws that I generally see posted by most Ubertis owners and I can appreciate that. It appears cost was not a consideration and I think we can agree on that point. For me it is less about cost specifically because we aren’t talking about anything to this point were there is much difference anyways except for an original and not replica which I have no interest in anyway. Then the cost and viability of being able to shoot it would be off the table for me anyway.

For some reason being truer to form is less important to me than fit and finish.


Thanks for sharing as the more input the better as far as I am concerned.

[RanchRoper]

Good luck

[dddrees]

Good luck

Thank you sir, and thanks for your help,

[ESquared]

I like tracking these kinds of posts, too, because what ends up being uncovered are all the trade-offs and what comes to the surface is what's really important to the buyer. Been there, done that, as have probably the rest of you. Caliber vs. receiver finish vs. wood vs. MIM vs. customer support vs. parts/service vs. ammo availability/pricing. And, now it looks like there are 3-4 rifles in the mix.
This kind of thing leads me to lots of "sleep on it" before deciding. It's when you wake up and are still torn between This and That . . .THEN it gets crazy!
Good luck and keep us posted. As you can tell, I'm absolutely no help in your decision. Just a supportive peanut gallery!

There have been times when to many trade offs end up being something that’s just not worth it to begin with. If that’s the case then that’s fine as well. I just like knowing what those details are before hand.

Absolutely! Due diligence is part of the fun, and I've learned a lot along the way during many firearm purchase decisions like this. Just wish I could be more help on this one!