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.45-70 H010CC sighting problem

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Re: .45-70 H010CC sighting problem

Post by Frank V » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:58 pm

Hope you'll give us a range report on the two front sight blades Henry sends you. A shorter front sight will likely solve your problem. It's great to hear of good customer service.

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Re: .45-70 H010CC sighting problem

Post by Ozarkridgerunner » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:48 pm

Well, I received the two new front sights per Patrick from HRA. According to the packing slip, the 56B is the standard sight installed on the BB in .45Colt. The 50B they sent is installed from the factory on the .357's. Visually there was no discernible difference in height comparing the 58 ,which was on my .45-70, and the 56. The 50 however was noticeably shorter so that's the one I installed. After raising the rear sight insert again slightly and up a couple notches on the rear sight elevator, I could put my shots in the bull at 50 yards with a six o'clock hold shooting off the bench. Then at 100 yards resting rifle across the bed of the pickup , I was hitting a three pound coffee can pretty consistently. Plenty good enough for me for the open sight shooting and brush hunting I'll be doing with this gun. The ammo was Hornady Leverevolution 325 gr FTX and Federal Power Shok 300 gr. I also have shot a couple boxes of the HSM Cowboy Loads 405 gr. Real fun to shoot! The recoil on the Hornadys are perceivable stouter of course than the old standard loads but in this rifle still quite manageable. I haven't shot any of the 430 gr +P Bear loads yet and won't be making them a steady diet by any means but they should be manageable. I guess I have shot enough big bore magnum rifles that the recoil is not really bad at all. Out of the .45-70, felt recoil is like a big push not as quick , and sometimes violent!, as some of the modern caliber magnums. I am really enjoying the rifle now. Thanks to Patrick and all of the folks at Henry. They are first class.
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Re: .45-70 H010CC sighting problem

Post by Mags » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:53 pm

Glad to hear you got it taken care of. Also another good notch on Henry's customer service!
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Re: .45-70 H010CC sighting problem

Post by JEBar » Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:14 pm

Ozarkridgerunner wrote:I am really enjoying the rifle now. Thanks to Patrick and all of the folks at Henry. They are first class.

OUTSTANDING .... truly outstanding .... delighted to hear it

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Re: .45-70 H010CC sighting problem

Post by ESquared » Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:11 pm

Great outcome! So glad to hear it, but not really surprised. Need some pics of the whole set-up and some targets! Congrats on getting it straightened out.
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Re: .45-70 H010CC sighting problem

Post by GFK » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:43 pm

Glad things worked out. I guess people make mistakes. I wonder if the test firing includes shooting at a target? Seems like a good QA check.
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Re: .45-70 H010CC sighting problem

Post by Ozarkridgerunner » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:51 pm

JEBar wrote:
Ozarkridgerunner wrote:I am really enjoying the rifle now. Thanks to Patrick and all of the folks at Henry. They are first class.

OUTSTANDING .... truly outstanding .... delighted to hear it
Yes sir, my sentiments exactly. Great folks to do business with and a refreshing change back to how service from a company used to be. Thanks

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Re: .45-70 H010CC sighting problem

Post by Ozarkridgerunner » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:58 pm

ESquared wrote:Great outcome! So glad to hear it, but not really surprised. Need some pics of the whole set-up and some targets! Congrats on getting it straightened out.
Thanks ESquared , and yes I have to get the picture posting figured out. I read JBar's explanation on a post on how to do so but we aren't connected to the internet out here so I do all my posting on my phone so I'm not able to download pics and send from a computer. Hopefully I can get something figured out.

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Re: .45-70 H010CC sighting problem

Post by Ozarkridgerunner » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:02 pm

GFK wrote:Glad things worked out. I guess people make mistakes. I wonder if the test firing includes shooting at a target? Seems like a good QA check.
Yes sir it does. I assume all guns are test fired with a proof load but Patrick at HRA told me in an email that they didn't test fire their guns at a target for accuracy. They load the gun and run the ammo through the action to check function only. Those are his exact words. I was a bit surprised actually.

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Re: .45-70 H010CC sighting problem

Post by Ozarkridgerunner » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:04 pm

Mags wrote:Glad to hear you got it taken care of. Also another good notch on Henry's customer service!
Thanks a lot Mags and yes they are great folks to work with.

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Re: .45-70 H010CC sighting problem

Post by GFK » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:32 am

Ozarkridgerunner wrote:
GFK wrote:Glad things worked out. I guess people make mistakes. I wonder if the test firing includes shooting at a target? Seems like a good QA check.
Yes sir it does. I assume all guns are test fired with a proof load but Patrick at HRA told me in an email that they didn't test fire their guns at a target for accuracy. They load the gun and run the ammo through the action to check function only. Those are his exact words. I was a bit surprised actually.
Hum. That explains a lot. I guess the sights are not expected to be used. Maybe, replaced? But, that would not yield a quality product. One would expect for it to shoot straight out of the box. To me, that would be like buying a car and assume people will replace the tires before driving it continuously so cheap 2 ply tires with minimal treads are used. One should not have to spend money or be frustrated before using a product appropriately. Yet maybe, that is what the world is coming to. Anyway, thanks and happy shooting!
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Re: .45-70 H010CC sighting problem

Post by Ozarkridgerunner » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:37 pm

Thanks GFK. I guess they have summarized that a lot of folks will replace the buckhorn for say a peep or opt for a scope. I don't know that but just my opinion. Sure seems like lot of folks do replace the original sights and I can partially understand. However now that I've got my original problem rectified, the original set up is fine for me. But , like you , I have shot far too many guns of lesser price and quality that were zeroed on the money out of the box with open sights.

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Re: .45-70 H010CC sighting problem

Post by GFK » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:15 am

I can agree. I guess if Henrys were used by mainstream (law enforcement or military), it might be a different story. And yes, I like my Henry with the buckhorn sight as well.
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Re: .45-70 H010CC sighting problem

Post by JEBar » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:16 pm

Ozarkridgerunner wrote:I have shot far too many guns of lesser price and quality that were zeroed on the money out of the box with open sights.
so have I .... times have changed and the OEM sights are no longer a concern for me .... the reason is, I only have and use 2 rifles that don't have a scope .... that being my Grandfather's Remington Model 12 pump 22LR and his early Winchester Model 94 30-30 .... both have buckhorn or semi buckhorn rear sights ....

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Re: .45-70 H010CC sighting problem

Post by Mags » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:10 pm

Maybe I got lucky or maybe someone at Henry off the books zero'd my buckhorn sight. I only adjusted the rear sight down one notch to set POA preference. Windage is dead on.
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Re: .45-70 H010CC sighting problem

Post by Ozarkridgerunner » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:38 pm

Likewise with my son's Golden Boy. It came out of the box a tack driver.

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Re: .45-70 H010CC sighting problem

Post by GFK » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:15 am

Like a lot of things, people seek out sites like these more than likely to resolve a concern. So, this could be a slant or minority representation. But, this is the second type of sighting system used for the H009. Therefore, Henry does listen to concerns.
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