.45LC Stock; & possible ammo shipping issue?

[PT7]

~~~The just-for-fun part.
Received a gold shipment today of 100 rounds Aguila .45LC ammo, 200gr, cowboy-action. Along with my 50 rounds of HSM --- also 200gr, cowboy-action --- now have a stock total of 250 gold rounds! And have 5 rounds left of Hornady CD 180gr FTX ammo from shooting my derringer. I sure have a way to go in order to get my stock to the amount RR has up north, don't I ?!?
Glad to have a stock start on this fun-to-shoot caliber.

~~~OK, now a Q about what I think may be is a shipping/handling issue.
Aguila shipped the 200 rounds using FedEx. I've had this happen before with this carrier. The ammo was left on the ground at the front door of my apartment, no knock at door, no signature required. With all the concern about gun safety, not to even consider the money invested in the ammo sitting on the concrete, should ammo be delivered like that? I don't think so, but don't know if there any regulations covering that. Probably need to research the regs.

Should I notify one or the other companies about this? FedEx or Aguila?
Thanks for any advice or wisdom you may offer.
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[Shakey Jake]

You can always request to have your shipment made to a Walgreen's or other FedEx drop off facility if you're not sure about the safety of getting the ammo left on your front door. You can easily do that from the FedEx shipping manager. https://www.fedex.com/en-us/shipping/ho ... ation.html

[PT7]

Thanks, Jake. Your suggestion makes good sense, and is less of a hassle, too.
I have a large FedEx store about 10 minutes from my place, and I've used them to ship firearms before.
I'll give them a call....easier to discuss via phone, if they'll work with me that way. The web has too many side trails for me!
PT7

You can always request to have your shipment made to a Walgreen's or other FedEx drop off facility if you're not sure about the safety of getting the ammo left on your front door. You can easily do that from the FedEx shipping manager. https://www.fedex.com/en-us/shipping/ho ... ation.html

[Mags]

I doubt the FedEx delivery driver would know the contents of what he was delivering. Ammo is supposed to ship in a plain box. I'm surprised that who ever you bought the ammo from didn't require FedEx to get your signature upon delivery. Shakey has good advice and you got a local FedEx close by.

[CT_Shooter]

I doubt the FedEx delivery driver would know the contents of what he was delivering. Ammo is supposed to ship in a plain box. I'm surprised that who ever you bought the ammo from didn't require FedEx to get your signature upon delivery. Shakey has good advice and you got a local FedEx close by.

I thought all ammo shipped required a Labled ID of it's contents. I have shipped reloads via UPS and it ALWAYS required this label on the package and a signature for receipt. All ammo I have purchased online has been delivered by UPS and also included this ID. UPS requires a declaration of contents. The last time I shipped ammo via UPS, I was actually required to open the package for inspection. I was very happy to.

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[Shakey Jake]

I doubt the FedEx delivery driver would know the contents of what he was delivering. Ammo is supposed to ship in a plain box. I'm surprised that who ever you bought the ammo from didn't require FedEx to get your signature upon delivery. Shakey has good advice and you got a local FedEx close by.

The box would have a "ORD" label on it so, yes, they probably do know that it's ammo, powder, or primers.

[PT7]

Appreciate you noting that CT...thanks. I'd forgotten that detail. Yes, the ammo came in a plain cardboard box, and had a large ORM-D label on one side. If the driver didn't know what that meant and what he was delivering, the problem is more "duh." So that detail will be most helpful when I chat with FedEx.

I thought all ammo shipped required a Labled ID of it's contents. I have shipped reloads via UPS and it ALWAYS required this label on the package and a signature for receipt. All ammo I have purchased online has been delivered by UPS and also included this ID. UPS requires a declaration of contents. The last time I shipped ammo via UPS, I was actually required to open the package for inspection. I was very happy to.

I doubt the FedEx delivery driver would know the contents of what he was delivering. Ammo is supposed to ship in a plain box. I'm surprised that who ever you bought the ammo from didn't require FedEx to get your signature upon delivery. Shakey has good advice and you got a local FedEx close by.

The box would have a "ORD" label on it so, yes, they probably do know that it's ammo, powder, or primers.

[RanchRoper]

I have all of mine shipped UPS to a UPS Store outlet for pickup by me. That way I know it's safe until in my hands. I also live rural and in Canada ammo cannot ship by post.

[Mags]

Looked up the Federal Code of Regulations. An ORM-D label is required for shipping a lot different kinds of hazardous materials. What's odd is that only the label for small arms ammunition requires a declaration of content on the ORM-D label. In shipping non-ammo, where an ORM-D is required, shipments should not identify the contents. Labeling, including the shipper's and consignee's abbreviated names on the shipping label and shipping document, must be non-descriptive. One would think that it should be unlabeled likewise for ammo shipments, lowers risk of theft.

[PT7]

Yup, there are a lot of ins/outs to my inquiry, particularly in regard to regulations.

The other aspect still bothers me, however. My apartment door is ground-level, first door in a walk-through breezeway just a short distance from the parking lot. In fact, my door is easily seen from the parking lot. No matter what's in the box left by the door, it is a target for someone to pick up and walk away with. In this case, fairly spendy .45LC ammo. 'Twould be my loss if I couldn't get either FedEx or Aguila to pay me, which I doubt.

I think UPS has delivered packages and also left them outside. But they have dropped them over my patio picket fence next to my window slider door. I can "see that delivery," and the patio area is mostly hidden from view of passersby....unless you put your chin on top of the fence to look. Also the patio gate has my padlock on it. This delivery method is a little better/safer for the merchandise left outside. Anyway, still plan to get with Fed/Ex per Jake's suggestion.
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[BigAl52]

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I get your concern in your case but I live in a rural neighborhood. When they drop it on my front porch its ok by me. Alot of times these shipping houses dont tell you there shipping with a signature required. Im not home during the day to sign a thing. I work. Id like to know if there doing that so I could have it shipped where I work to sign for it. Im not wanting to chase it to a FedEx or UPS office which in my case is only open limited hours.

[Mags]

I have a similar situation to BigAl. I also live rural and quite a ways off the main road so I don't normally worry about pkgs being left on the porch. Being retired I'm home more often then not. So even having to sign for a delivery isn't really a problem most of the time. But sometimes a pkg comes when I'm not home that needs a delivery signature and then I've got a 1 hour trip each way to go pick it up at their disti hub. There are FedEx and UPS stores much closer, but like BigAl said you have to know ahead of time a delivery is coming that needs a signature. If you don't know, you can't redirect the pkg to a closer store. The online tracking info doesn't always indicate signature required.

[PT7]

Got the end of the FedEx saga when I stopped in at the FedEx store earlier today. They cannot accept ordnance at their shop; they are designated as a "copy store." If I want the ammo manufacturer who uses FedEx for shipping to send to FedEx, it will be accepted at the main hub in downtown KC where I could go to pick it up. Not far, but not next door like this local store.

And the FedEx supe had a suggestion, which I may pursue whenever I purchase web ammo again. He said to request the manufacturer to "ship with signature required." That seems like a good path. He also wondered why the manufacturer did not forward-think that and send ammo with the signature as the insurance that it gets to the person.

Anyway, checked it out and done for this go-around. Appreciate all your comments, Henry Folk.
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[TMB]

I have had this problem with FedEx also. My apartment complex requires that both FedEx and UPS bring packages to the office if I'm not home. UPS is good about that but not FedEx.
I have had shipments of coral for my fish tank which would die if left on the stoop. I contacted FedEx and they had no problem holding shipments at the local terminal for pick up. All I had to do was give the shipper the address of the local terminal as my ship to address.