Lever Guns Viable Option

[Mistered]

Well, it is usable. But, I guess target practice is not an option, unless one has their own land to shoot on, without a permit.

Doesn't seem to 'usable' without a permit to take it out of the house. Even if one has their own land it would not necessarily be legal to shoot on it unless the land is within a legal shooting area. Shooting would also be a tough sport/hobby to undertake if one is limited to a range with potential distance, target & ammo limitations.

[GFK]

Well, it is usable. But, I guess target practice is not an option, unless one has their own land to shoot on, without a permit.

Even if one has their own land it would not necessarily be legal to shoot on it unless the land is within a legal shooting area. Shooting would also be a tough sport/hobby to undertake if one is limited to a range with potential distance, target & ammo limitations.

This is true. I was thinking about at least 40 acres of land. But, it would still be a tough situation (as you pointed out) if one decides to take up hunting: deer, bears, ducks, turkeys, etc. It appears to be an option that is fading into the past. Funny, I just decided to pick it up a couple of years ago. I would like to be able to pass it on to my grandkids though. However, time will tell.

[Travlin]

In Florida I can have a handgun in a vehicle in a zippered case or in a console etc. without a permit. Any others including AR's etc are legal as long as you are of legal age not a convicted felon etc. I chose to get my CCW permit because a friend who was a S.O. sergeant said that he thought I should. It's good for seven years. Having it means I don't have to wait three days to pick up any gun. I don't need to show anything to buy ammo. The original cost for the test , fingerprints etc was $119 and the renewal for another seven years is $57. Again I don't need the C.C.W. to buy any legal firearm or ammo it just makes it legal to have one concealed on my person.

[Mags]

In Oregon a person without a CCW permit can only carry a fire arm unloaded in a vehicle in a locked compartment or trunk. When the vehicle doesn't have a lockable compartment or trunk (like an SUV), the fire arm has to be out of reach in the rear of the vehicle. All ammo magazines must also be unloaded. A CCW permit is not required for a holstered firearm worn on the hip.

CCW permit is not required to purchase a firearm, but a person must be legal age and not a convicted felon. At a FFL LGS, no waiting period other than the time it takes to run a no-cost real-time 'Firearms Instant Check' (about 15-20min). Finger prints are part of the FIC paperwork. A real time purchase can be up to 3 firearms at a time and must be declared in the FIC paperwork. Must be legal age to buy ammo. FIC records of transactions cannot be kept for more than 5 yrs and are exempt from public inspection.

A CCW is required to carry a loaded firearm concealed on a person's body and/or within reach in a vehicle.

[Mistered]

Regarding firearms, it's working here.

CT - could you please clarify what you mean by 'Regarding firearms, it's working here' ? I may have missed something. Thanks.

[CT_Shooter]

Regarding firearms, it's working here.

CT - could you please clarify what you mean by 'it's working here' ?

Simply, CT has strict background checks and educational requirements for gun ownership, approved by a majority of its citizens. Gun ownership is regulated by requiring a "permit to purchase". Subsequent statistics indicate that, as a result, the state has very low "gun crime exports" to other states and lower in-state deaths involving firearms (per capita).

Reminder: Political discussions on this forum will be deleted.

[GunnyGene]

Guess I can chime in on this, since I'm the new kid on the block. I did read thru all of the previous posts, and some good points were made but I won't address those directly. Just some general observations, which any other forum members who are MS residents are no doubt familiar with.

1. Local laws/ordinances vary widely, as we all know. In MS there are no restrictions or permit requirements on purchase/carry/vehicle transport other than the usual places such as courtrooms, jails, etc. School districts can allow carry with some limitations. We're a permitless carry State, although many people will get a standard or enhanced permit for personal reasons. Strictly a voluntary decision. Our permitless carry applies to visitors as well as residents. Private sales are private, and the State does not get involved or notified. No different than any common yard sale, and in fact a fair number of firearms, ammo, etc. are sold/bought at yard sales.

2. Any firearm can serve a defensive purpose, including my .44 cap & ball wheel gun, or .22mag lcr. Some are just more suited for that purpose than others.

3. Shooting on your own property is basically your own business provided you're not endangering other people. I do it all the time, as do my neighbors - the nearest one is about 400yds away thru dense forest as the bullet flies. That said, some towns do restrict via local ordinances where you can fire away.

4. I'd suggest that any out of State visitors take a look at the details of our firearms laws at: https://www.dps.state.ms.us/firearms/fi ... rmit-unit/

And specifically this, which is covers far more than just the title would suggest: http://www.dps.state.ms.us/wp-content/u ... -HB786.pdf

[GFK]

2. Any firearm can serve a defensive purpose, including my .44 cap & ball wheel gun, or .22mag lcr. Some are just more suited for that purpose than others.

This is true. I think we all can agree with that. The point I take from the article was semi-auto vs lever. Since this is a site that caters to or tailored for Henry levers, it seemed like a good place for the article. And, most of us around here like our levers.

[rwortman]

Back to something close to the original topic. I have a nephew that competes in 3 gun competition. A while back him and a few of his buddies were having a discussion on FB about PCC's (pistol caliber carbines) for them that is an AR pattern carbine chambered for either 9mm or 45ACP. I chimed in that preferred my pistol caliber carbine to be chambered 44 magnum with a lever underneath.

[GunnyGene]

2. Any firearm can serve a defensive purpose, including my .44 cap & ball wheel gun, or .22mag lcr. Some are just more suited for that purpose than others.

This is true. I think we all can agree with that. The point I take from the article was semi-auto vs lever. Since this is a site that caters to or tailored for Henry levers, it seemed like a good place for the article. And, most of us around here like our levers.

I understand that. So to stay on point, I see no problem with a lever gun in regards to self defense, given the appropriate training, etc. It would not be my preferred weapon, since I have other firearms more suitable at the ready, but I would not hesitate to put a lever gun into action.

[GFK]

but I would not hesitate to put a lever gun into action.

Yes, that seems to be the point that the article/video was making. And if I have neglected, welcome to the forum.

[Firearmfanatic]

I don't own an AR15 style rifle. Accuracy by volume is not my thing. I own a locker full of lever guns all makes, many calibers. As a law abiding citizen's defensive weapon they will all hold their own.

AMEN!!!!

[CurtZHP]

For a lot of people, the best gun for home defense is the gun you have.

[ozark75]

Henry BBB .357 is my go to home defense gun. Can't think of a valid reason to not use it. There are other options, but I don't see any of them as particularly superior, just different.

And for what it is worth, here in the Show Me state, I can pretty much carry any gun, any where, in any manner for whatever reason with no permit or fee. Standard exemptions apply, i.e. convicted felon, religious building, government building, school, bar, etc.

[Mags]

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A difference; good to also have a handgun. Might not be able to bring a rifle to bare when the intruder has managed to get up your face.

Henry BBB .357 is my go to home defense gun. Can't think of a valid reason to not use it. There are other options, but I don't see any of them as particularly superior, just different.

And for what it is worth, here in the Show Me state, I can pretty much carry any gun, any where, in any manner for whatever reason with no permit or fee. Standard exemptions apply, i.e. convicted felon, religious building, government building, school, bar, etc.

[Lyman]

This is not my style but it's interesting. https://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/ ... bE585DZB0U

[Mags]

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One of our members made some of those mods to his All Weather Henry.
http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5952

This is not my style but it's interesting. https://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/ ... bE585DZB0U

[ozarkhunter]

I own several firearms. Of the ones I own, my levers would not be my first choice for home defense. I would prefer my 9mm or my 12 gauge for this task.
HOWEVER, when it comes to defending myself from a 200 lb mass of muscle and bone with 3" cutters jutting from his lower jaw... I would prefer to reach for my lever guns. If given an opportunity with the same "intruder" after dark, I would be reaching for my scary black rifle with which I can see in the dark (thermal optic).

[Ramjet]

There is utility for both platforms. Especially where restriction force an alternative to the semi auto platform. I like both and have both just as I have defensive shotgun and two Mossberg shorties. The AR best virtue as defensive gun is pressing the gun into action very quickly because of the magazine. From empty to action is very fast. The lever serves great in those applications where short handy and reliability and other restrictions disallow semi auto rifles. Room for all of them guys, room for all of them. What you choose is based on what you think works best I respect that but own both types and few others too boot. I liked the article and the case made in fact I do believe GunSite has a class on defensive lever guns.

[jkrijt]

Sometimes I think the gun laws in the Netherlands are not so bad.
For sport you can have all kinds of guns, AR15, lever actions, handguns and others with a maximum of five.
Guns for selfdefense is not permittted in the Netherlands and all guns must be stored in a safe when not used at the shooting range.