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Range Report: CZ beats Henry

Post by Sir Henry » Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:01 pm

I'm sad to announce what I expected would happen but a CZ beat my Henry by a wide margin. Here is the CZ 452-2E American on my crude benchrest. If you look closely you can see the target at 100 yards.
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This was the best of six targets. The worst was 1.097" which beat the best Henry target. I had it shooting dead center then changed ammo from Hornady to CCI.
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The Henry just couldn't shoot any better. This is the best of two targets.
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To be completely fair the CZ had a far better scope. One click only moved the point of impact 1/8" at 100 yards.
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I shot at full 24 power and at that magnification the point of aim would move about one inch with each heartbeat. I timed my shots just after a heatbeat.
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Re: Range Report: CZ beats Henry

Post by CT_Shooter » Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:09 pm

Sir Henry wrote:I shot at full 24 power and at that magnification the point of aim would move about one inch with each heartbeat. I timed my shots just after a heatbeat [sic].
So, the good news is you can detect and count your own heartbeats, and then pull the trigger between beats. I would not be able to do that. My heart beats a bit too fast; even while I'm (bench) resting. But, my heart would soar for a target anything like your Varmint Express at a hundred yards. ;)
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Re: Range Report: CZ beats Henry

Post by JEBar » Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:10 pm

which of your Henry rifles were you shooting ?

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Re: Range Report: CZ beats Henry

Post by Sir Henry » Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:40 pm

JEBar wrote:which of your Henry rifles were you shooting ?
The Varmint Express in .17HMR.
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Re: Range Report: CZ beats Henry

Post by JEBar » Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:47 pm

Sir Henry wrote:
JEBar wrote:which of your Henry rifles were you shooting ?
The Varmint Express in .17HMR.
interesting .... that is a Henry that I know absolutely nothing about .... have you observed the difference in grouping in the past or are today's results something new

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Re: Range Report: CZ beats Henry

Post by Sir Henry » Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:04 pm

JEBar wrote:
Sir Henry wrote:
JEBar wrote:which of your Henry rifles were you shooting ?
The Varmint Express in .17HMR.
interesting .... that is a Henry that I know absolutely nothing about .... have you observed the difference in grouping in the past or are today's results something new
Here is the rifle. https://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/varm ... hmr-rifle/

I think its well known a CZ would beat a Henry in group size. I'm sure I could nurse and extra inch smaller group out of the Henry but I doubt it would ever match a CZ. About six months ago I set up a contest between a Small Game Carbine and a CZ where the goal was time and not accuracy. The distance was 25 yards and the target was four inches in diameter. It didn't matter where you hit the circle you just had to hit it as fast as you could. I could work the Henry much faster and stay on target while the bolt took more time and often came off target so the time was two or three times as long.
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Re: Range Report: CZ beats Henry

Post by JEBar » Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:20 pm

I don't guess that there is one rifle that is best at everything .... if there was, they'd sure sell a bunch of them and not much else .... we have my grandfather's Model 94 30-30 .... he took more bear and deer with it than I'll ever see in the woods .... fired from a solid rest at 100 yards I'd be lucky to consistently hit a basketball .... guess the good thing was, he wasn't hunting basketballs .. :roll:

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Re: Range Report: CZ beats Henry

Post by RetiredSeabee » Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:06 pm

The CZ sure is a beauty.
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Re: Range Report: CZ beats Henry

Post by ditto1958 » Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:09 pm

Hmmm.... what's the old expression again? Oh, yes: no donkey has ever won the Kentucky Derby.

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Re: Range Report: CZ beats Henry

Post by Deadwood Dutch » Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:30 pm

Don't be discouraged, I'm sure that with practice that you will do better.
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Re: Range Report: CZ beats Henry

Post by Sir Henry » Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:39 pm

RetiredSeabee wrote:The CZ sure is a beauty.
It has the right scope on it too. With the adjustable objective one slight turn and its changed from 50 to 100 yards.
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Re: Range Report: CZ beats Henry

Post by ditto1958 » Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:36 pm

That's not fair. :(

The CZ gets a really good scope and the Henry gets a... what kinda scope is that again? I'm filing a complaint. Don't know where yet, but I'll find out.

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Re: Range Report: CZ beats Henry

Post by Sir Henry » Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:41 am

Miss Wait is in charge of complaints. If you have a complain go to Helen Wait. :lol:
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Re: Range Report: CZ beats Henry

Post by White Squirrel » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:36 pm

Sir Henry wrote:Miss Wait is in charge of complaints. If you have a complain go to Helen Wait. :lol:
You better be careful, the mods will ban you for that! :o

Wait, that would mean you have to ban yourself. Never mind! :lol:
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Re: Range Report: CZ beats Henry

Post by Sir Henry » Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:28 pm

Don't worry. I gave myself a good talking too. :|
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Re: Range Report: CZ beats Henry

Post by isldtime » Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:13 pm

Kind of a cold thread now but, have you ever tried that test with the same bullet?
I still think the CZ will win from what I have read.
The H001V is still better looking but, that's because I have one!!

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