Crosman 1322 versus Pop Can

[Conax]

Hey gang, this Crosman P1322 is a great backyard/basement plinker. I got it yesterday, got to sight it in in the basement.

After a bit of fiddling I had it set up with its peep sight shooting 1/2" high at 20 feet (3 pumps). It put 3 pellets (cheap daisy pellets) in 3/8 inch strung horizontally, all holes touching. Outside at 22 yards it shot 5 within about 1 1/4" using 6 pumps. With 6 pumps it blew open a can of soda pop almost like a .22 would have done. (I shook it up for effect )

The elevation was right on at 6 pumps. The large outside group was my fault for sure, as I'm not that good a shot anymore with the bad eyes and jittery hold, so this thing shoots better than I do.
I haven't tried it with the precision crosman pellets since it shoots great with the Daisies.
Oh, and I did put the butt stock on first thing. The peep (tiny aperture) works better with the rear sight so close to the eye. The notch looked like the Grand Canyon from so close up. So buttstock / peep is how I'll keep it.
See the carnage here :

http://tinypic.com/m/k538rd/4]View My Video

[North Country Gal]

Conax, not surprised you like the Crosman. That 1377/22 series is the real deal even though cost is so minimal. Shows, once again, that you don't have to spend big bucks to get into air gun shooting. We have some very high end air guns, but I still enjoy shooting our 1377.

[Conax]

Conax, not surprised you like the Crosman. That 1377/22 series is the real deal even though cost is so minimal. Shows, once again, that you don't have to spend big bucks to get into air gun shooting. We have some very high end air guns, but I still enjoy shooting our 1377.

All that stuff, the stock and everything came from Amazon for $75.
Can't beat that in fun-per-dollar!

[Henry88]

My Brother in law can hit beer cans at 35 yds all day with his 1322. He was good with his 1377 but better with his 1322.

[Conax]

My Brother in law can hit beer cans at 35 yds all day with his 1322. He was good with his 1377 but better with his 1322.

I like the bigger pellets, it would seem logical they'd be less disturbed by a breeze, all else being equal.
My old 1377 was extremely accurate at least at shorter ranges. I could hit groggy, wet hornets from about 30 feet away, nearly every shot. It was always surprising me.
(We put a garden hose in their hollow log, when they crawled out you had a few seconds to get the shot off before their wings dried out)

[daytime dave]

I'm glad you were able to post photos Conax. I'm even more glad you are having fun with that 1322. It's a nice set up.

I liked the story about the hornets and the pressure to get the shot before the wings dried.

[GFK]

I picked up the .177 model some time back. Yes, it is great for the back yard, snakes, and to teach new shooters the basics. I have not pumped it pass 10 yet which suppose to be its limit. But, I have been thinking about it.

[Henry88]

Referred to BIL pumps to 6.

[Conax]

I generally pump mine about 5 (outside) and 3 in the basement.
I used 6 on the pop can, but ten would be my limit. I don't think the air valve is big enough to pass more air into the chamber during "firing" ?? anyway, so I'd be working myself and the gun's seals for very little power increase.
Even if it did give you another 100 fps, it might damage the gun.
It's a play pistol, so I don't press the issue. I have firearms if I really need the power, eh?

[GFK]

I can agree and understand. At times, I find myself pushing limits. When I was growing up, I remember pumping an air rifle until it could not pump any more. And, it last for awhile. I am not that knowledgeable about the composition of it. But, I may trying to stick to the owner's manual guidance. As you pointed out, it's not that serious.

[daytime dave]

You can pump past the recommended levels, but you don't get much in return. You certainly may push a seal past it's limit with continued over pumping, then it's not much fun to change them out. They will stay good for years and years if not over done.

However, people who push the limit enjoy it usually. If you get some good results or photos, please share them with us. You could always mod your 1377 and `1322 as well. Plenty of after market stuff out there.

I like the results Conax got with his soda can.

[North Country Gal]

I would add that even staying with the recommended max for pumps on any pumper is never the best for consistent velocities and, therefore, accuracy. On my Benjamin and Sheridan pump rifles, it's been long established that the mid range of 4-6 pumps gives the most consistent shot-to-shot velocity. Also, as Dave noted, if you stay in this mid-range of recommend pumps, your gun may never need a seal repair. Let me also add that, back in the day, when I used a Sheridan pump rifle for a lot of squirrel and rabbit hunting, I never went past 6 pumps and did fine. With air gun hunting, it's all about accurate pellet placement, not power.

[GFK]

Thanks, and I can agree.

[Conax]

You can pump past the recommended levels, but you don't get much in return. You certainly may push a seal past it's limit with continued over pumping, then it's not much fun to change them out. They will stay good for years and years if not over done.

However, people who push the limit enjoy it usually. If you get some good results or photos, please share them with us. You could always mod your 1377 and `1322 as well. Plenty of after market stuff out there.

I like the results Conax got with his soda can.

Actually, in the interests of truth and science, the pop was warm and I gave it 4 shakes before shooting it from 10 feet away.
If you watch the vid you'll see I got soda pop (with sugar in it) on my camera!

My son tried the same trick on a cold beer and it only shot through it with some beer spurting.. Warm pop blows up better than cold beer, if anyone is interested.

I used 10 pumps on a thick plastic gallon water jug full of water. The pellet got in, damaged the back making a leak but never shot through.
When the water was all leaked out, then it would shoot clear through and out.

It's a lot of fun for a $50 gun.

[Conax]

I also have some low end ballistic info. With my 13 grn pellets and one pump, at 18 feet it shot 1 1/2" low, 2 pumps was right on, and 3 pumps was a half inch high. So the lack of velocity at 1 pump had it dropping like a rock. One pump wouldn't punch through a cardboard box, but would pass through thinner card stock, like a pop carton.

6 pumps bounced off the nice quality safety glasses included in the deal. Got me in trouble ricochetting in the basement..
It only marred the plastic. Tough glasses they are.

[GFK]

My son tried the same trick on a cold beer and it only shot through it with some beer spurting..
It's a lot of fun for a $50 gun.

Cold beer! Yes, one can have lots of fun for $50. But, I try to enjoy every drop of cold beer.

[CT_Shooter]

6 pumps bounced off the nice quality safety glasses included in the deal. Got me in trouble ricochetting in the basement..
It only marred the plastic. Tough glasses they are.

...every mother's nightmare. Glad you were wearing them.

[Conax]

6 pumps bounced off the nice quality safety glasses included in the deal. Got me in trouble ricochetting in the basement..
It only marred the plastic. Tough glasses they are.

...every mother's nightmare. Glad you were wearing them.

I have prescription safety glasses so i can shoot straighter

[Conax]

My son tried the same trick on a cold beer and it only shot through it with some beer spurting..
It's a lot of fun for a $50 gun.

Cold beer! Yes, one can have lots of fun for $50. But, I try to enjoy every drop of cold beer.

I knew what we did was wrong,,