Original Henry Rifle Cartridge

[RanchRoper]

Picked this up at a gun show today....no idea if it's rare or not, just wanted one. The collector guy only had the one in the case.

A 44 Henry Rimfire cartridge with the H stamped on the bottom. Shown with a 45 Colt one for scale.

[Mistered]

Pretty cool to have. makes ya wonder how many Henry (and other) partial, or full old cartridge boxes are out there. I have a few old classics but nothing particularly rare or valuable. Well one sort of - an old nearly full box of Remington 'Rustless' .33 Winchester ammo.

[RanchRoper]

That .44 is still a formidable chunk of lead to get hit with....wonder how many frontier critters, 4 legged or 2 were taken down with those.

[CT_Shooter]

Picked this up at a gun show today....no idea if it's rare or not, just wanted one. The collector guy only had the one in the case.
A 44 Henry Rimfire cartridge with the H stamped on the bottom.

You can bid for an entire box of 50 Winchester 44 Rimfire with an H stamp and in its original cardboard box on Gunbroker today. It's estimated at $3500 -- give or take.



https://www.gunbroker.com/item/765600798

[JEBar]

they are scarce and expensive but, occasionally, you still see a few around .... as a bit cheaper option, there are 3 "Empty-Reproducton-44-Henry-Rim-Fire-Ammo-Boxes" on ebay listed for only $21 each ... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Empty-Reproduc ... SwTM5Ytyoa .... just think how nice it would be to have one to keep your bullet in ..

[Cofisher]

Yeah, I’ve got a spare 3500 sitting around somewhere. Dang, where did I leave that ?

[RanchRoper]

Ya, maybe not....I found this link that talks about early Winchesters and their ammo, interesting read. The bullet I have is called a ".44 Henry Flat" cartridge. Some were pointy. I paid $15 for the bullet. Can't have a Henry 1860 and not have a .44 rimfire bullet to keep it company.

http://www.classicarmsjournal.com/winch ... tridges/6/

[PT7]

RR --- Based on CT's comment re. cost of 50-rounds of this ammo on GB, that would translate into $70/bullet, give or take.
So at only $15 for your bullet, I'd say you got a pretty good deal! :*)

I think I'll stick with my .22LR caliber Henry carbine for now.

[RanchRoper]

Wow they are expensive!

[RanchRoper]

At the gun show today there was an abundance of Winchester lever guns too. New, not so new and some marked a late 1800's. A guy could really go nuts spending money if he had any.

There was one these new in box as well...tempting, it sure was a shiny rifle!
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detai ... tion-rifle

[Mistered]

Be careful with the commemorative Winchesters - while pretty to look at most are not any more valuable than shooter grade models in standard configuration. I own two, and both have octagon barrels (which are more deseriable) one in 26" but my point being most have little intrinsic value and can be had for not much more than a nice standard grade Winchester.

[RanchRoper]

Thanks for the tip. I won't be buying any more rifles for awhile; I'm investing in the stock market; Lead.

[tx gunrunner]

The original 45 Colt were rim fire too like the 44 Henry . The 45 colt wouldn't make a good lever gun cartridge because it need a bigger rim for the extactor to grab . The 44-40 was design and made for the 66 and 73 rifle and had a big rim . Just for your information .

[RudyN]

Several years ago I was able to buy an original Henry Cartridge. It is one with the H on the back of the case.

[RanchRoper]

A little piece of history.....

[Travlin]

Tx Gunrunner, how did you find out about the .45 Colt beginning as a rimfire? I know some of the early centerfire cartridges had inside primers that looked like rimfires. I have also read that the rim on the .45 Colt was made bigger when it was chambered in the Colt New Service revolver because the old thin rim would work for a rod ejector as in the S.A.A. but not the star of the double action.

[tx gunrunner]

Tx Gunrunner, how did you find out about the .45 Colt beginning as a rimfire? I know some of the early centerfire cartridges had inside primers that looked like rimfires. I have also read that the rim on the .45 Colt was made bigger when it was chambered in the Colt New Service revolver because the old thin rim would work for a rod ejector as in the S.A.A. but not the star of the double action.

Yes It is really a centerfire and it uses the rim to hold the prime charge . My original 40-70 Maynard was made the same way

[Travlin]

Thanks

[tx gunrunner]

About 15 year ago there was a company in Canada making rim fire in 44 Henry and 41 colt rim fire for derringer .

[RanchRoper]

Go figure. We can't get high demand ammo made in Canada but somebody made 44 Henry rimfire.....