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Plastic parts on Henry Levers ie; Long Ranger?

Post by Sgt Recoil » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:16 am

Hey all, On another forum I visit a member said he’d never buy a Henry lever because they use plastic parts. The only plastic part I can recall is or was the front sight/barrel clamp on the .22 H001.
Does Henry use any plastics on their centerfire levers such as the Lone Ranger or Big Boys?

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Re: Plastic parts on Henry Levers ie; Long Ranger?

Post by Squatch » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:41 am

You're spending time on the wrong forums. Henry doesn't even use plastic stocks on anything except the AR7 survival rifle.

Way too many silly folks on the web that just have too many excuses to not enjoy a fine rifle that's made in the USA.

Typical excuses: Plastic parts, pot metal receivers, no loading gate. I'm sure there are more.

In the mean time Henry is having trouble keeping up with demand while other company's are having a hard time keeping the doors open.

Same person that said that probably has 6 polymer striker fired pistols and 3 AR15's with plastic parts! :lol: :lol:

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Post by Ojaileveraction » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:24 pm

Squatch wrote:You're spending time on the wrong forums. Henry doesn't even use plastic stocks on anything except the AR7 survival rifle.

Way too many silly folks on the web that just have too many excuses to not enjoy a fine rifle that's made in the USA.

Typical excuses: Plastic parts, pot metal receivers, no loading gate. I'm sure there are more.
Latest I've read is, "They are to pretty to take hunting. "

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Re: Plastic parts on Henry Levers ie; Long Ranger?

Post by Sir Henry » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:04 pm

My only complaint about the plastic front slight/tube band was that it could not be modified to a dovetail to accept a globe sight. But a quick call to HRA and a metal one was on its way which I sent to Skinner to be modified. My new avatar wears a globe sight because HRA made a change to metal.

I just noticed I called it barrel band in the avatar.
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Re: Plastic parts on Henry Levers ie; Long Ranger?

Post by BigAl52 » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:24 pm

Squatch pretty well summed it up in his post. So many ridiculous things have been said about the reason not to buy a Henry. One guy on another forum started a thread about the load gate issue and had a question with 4 different answers that he was going to submit to Henry. It was basically telling Henry to change there guns to include a loading gate so more guns would be sold. I told him is was a ridiculous poll and would not make enough difference for them to change there guns. Like was mentioned Henry is having trouble keeping up and others are closing the doors. There isnt any plastic on the 8 Henrys I own and I would buy 8 more tomorrow. Al
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Re: Plastic parts on Henry Levers ie; Long Ranger?

Post by Mistered » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:09 pm

So many ridiculous things have been said about the reason not to buy a Henry.
One of the best reasons for a 'dedicated' Henry forum - a departure from all the BS about them!
Most of the negative attitudes about the tube feed issue are from people on other forums who most likely do not own a Henry (or any lever gun) and are so 'bent' on rationalizing every thing about guns as defensive they have no real Idea as to why We even own Henry rifles to begin with. The standard objection to the tube feed (with this crowd) is 'you can't keep it topped off in a firefight' - and similar drivel. These are the same people who refer to their AR, AK etc as their 'main battle rifle'.

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Re: Plastic parts on Henry Levers ie; Long Ranger?

Post by Yornoc3 » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:55 pm

The tube feed was why I bought a Henry 30-30 lever a couple of weeks ago (aside from the fact it was a screaming good deal on Clearance at Cabelas, an "old stock" NIB XS peep sights model), having to run all the cartridges through the action to unload was mostly why I sent my Marlin 45-70 down the road. And when I've shown friends the new single shot 45-70 that finally arrived, I've had to wipe the drool from it when I got it home ;) . Anyone who's actually handled a Henry should know better.

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Re: Plastic parts on Henry Levers ie; Long Ranger?

Post by Mistered » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:02 pm

Latest I've read is, "They are to pretty to take hunting. "
I actually read on another forum, "I decided to sell my Big Boy because it was too pretty to own"

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Post by JEBar » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:19 pm

Mistered wrote:"I decided to sell my Big Boy because it was too pretty to own"
OK .... a criticism I and understand ... :lol:

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Re: Plastic parts on Henry Levers ie; Long Ranger?

Post by Ojaileveraction » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:40 pm

Smallbore Lever Action Silhouettt shooters are turning to Henry Rifles in a big way.
These are people that shoot thousands of rounds a year.

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Post by Yornoc3 » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:45 pm

You know, I can almost understand that comment about a Henry being too pretty to own. The wood quality in the two I have is equal to, or better, than that of a Ruger #1-A and a Brno Effect I also have. I really don't know how they do it.

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Post by RanchRoper » Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:51 pm

They make a solid, working man's (or woman's) rifle that has the extra advantage of looking great. I'm not sure who would have an issue with that. They have some quality issues like anybody else but they look after their customers. I thought my Big Boy 45 Colt was great, and the guy who bought it from me says it's the finest firearm he's ever owned, and he hunts and owns lots of guns.
I especially don't get any Americans bashing HRA...seems, well,...un-American.
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Re: Plastic parts on Henry Levers ie; Long Ranger?

Post by ditto1958 » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:15 pm

Mistered wrote:
Latest I've read is, "They are to pretty to take hunting. "
I actually read on another forum, "I decided to sell my Big Boy because it was too pretty to own"
I’ve sold a coupla guns that were too pretty to shoot. :)

I’m not at all sure why that “plastic parts” boloney just will not go away. For anyone reading this who is new to Henry, yes, a long time ago the H001 Classic came with a plastic front sight and a plastic barrel band. Henry changed that a number of years ago, and both parts are now metal. As Sir Henry stated, if you find an old one that still has the plastic parts, give Henry a call and they will send metal parts.

The followers on the magazines are plastic, as they seem to be these days on almost all lever guns.

Other than that, Henry lever guns, pumps and single shots are made from metal and wood.

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Re: Plastic parts on Henry Levers ie; Long Ranger?

Post by GFK » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:21 pm

From what I have gathered the little time I have had my Henry, it is well made. That is the main reason I purchased it. I was looking for a Marlin 336C. When I seen the Henry H009, I looked no further. It did not appear to be made in a rush. It seemed more crafted than assembles. I suspect it will last for awhile.

But, I am curious to see if there is a noticeable difference between the 1/12 twist rate of the Henry H009 and the 1/10 twist rate of the Marlin 336W. Or, is it more like the difference between a Chevy and a Ford? A matter of taste and style, but they both function the same.
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Re: Plastic parts on Henry Levers ie; Long Ranger?

Post by Squatch » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:20 pm

Mistered wrote:
Latest I've read is, "They are to pretty to take hunting. "
I actually read on another forum, "I decided to sell my Big Boy because it was too pretty to own"
You can't be too rich or have guns that are too pretty. Life's too short to shoot ugly guns! :lol:

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Re: Plastic parts on Henry Levers ie; Long Ranger?

Post by DAVIDF » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:09 am

Mistered wrote:
Latest I've read is, "They are to pretty to take hunting. "
I actually read on another forum, "I decided to sell my Big Boy because it was too pretty to own"
I am considering divorcing my wife. She is just too pretty to stay married to. If she got a scar, it would be too unbearable to take ;)

OK, I have gotten the absurdity out of my system for today! My Big Boy has some scratches, I hope to take it hunting, and I will never sell (or divorce :D ).
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Re: Plastic parts on Henry Levers ie; Long Ranger?

Post by North Country Gal » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:54 am

GFK wrote: ... But, I am curious to see if there is a noticeable difference between the 1/12 twist rate of the Henry H009 and the 1/10 twist rate of the Marlin 336W. Or, is it more like the difference between a Chevy and a Ford? A matter of taste and style, but they both function the same.
I wouldn't give that small difference in twist rate a moment's notice on a cartridge like the 30-30. You''ll be shooting bullets almost exclusively in that 150-170 grains at only moderate velocities. There will be far more differences in accuracy between individual guns or load choices than anything caused by that small difference in twist rate.

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Re: Plastic parts on Henry Levers ie; Long Ranger?

Post by GFK » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:10 pm

North Country Gal wrote:
GFK wrote: ... But, I am curious to see if there is a noticeable difference between the 1/12 twist rate of the Henry H009 and the 1/10 twist rate of the Marlin 336W. Or, is it more like the difference between a Chevy and a Ford? A matter of taste and style, but they both function the same.
I wouldn't give that small difference in twist rate a moment's notice on a cartridge like the 30-30. You''ll be shooting bullets almost exclusively in that 150-170 grains at only moderate velocities. There will be far more differences in accuracy between individual guns or load choices than anything caused by that small difference in twist rate.
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Post by Ojaileveraction » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:08 pm

GFK wrote:
North Country Gal wrote:
GFK wrote: ... But, I am curious to see if there is a noticeable difference between the 1/12 twist rate of the Henry H009 and the 1/10 twist rate of the Marlin 336W. Or, is it more like the difference between a Chevy and a Ford? A matter of taste and style, but they both function the same.
I wouldn't give that small difference in twist rate a moment's notice on a cartridge like the 30-30. You''ll be shooting bullets almost exclusively in that 150-170 grains at only moderate velocities. There will be far more differences in accuracy between individual guns or load choices than anything caused by that small difference in twist rate.
Thanks!
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Re: Plastic parts on Henry Levers ie; Long Ranger?

Post by GFK » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:13 pm

Ojaileveraction wrote:
GFK wrote:
North Country Gal wrote:
I wouldn't give that small difference in twist rate a moment's notice on a cartridge like the 30-30. You''ll be shooting bullets almost exclusively in that 150-170 grains at only moderate velocities. There will be far more differences in accuracy between individual guns or load choices than anything caused by that small difference in twist rate.
Thanks!
Marlin and Mossberg 30-30s are 10 twist. Winchester and Henry are 12.
Chevy or a Ford?
Well, Chevy seems to have style and Ford seems to have durability. But, both seems to get one from point A to point B reliably. I have owned both through out the years. If maintenance is performed as required, both will provide years of service. For me, it just comes down to style.

That is what I was wondering about the twist rate. How much difference does it make? Does one rate out perform the other? I suspect the manufactures choose the rate they did for a reason. Was it just to be different (a matter of style)? I figured one may provide a tighter group than the other. But at the range of the possible target (50yds-150yds), will the difference really matter? Dead is dead. Just a thought.
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