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Well I took a different route. I shoot and reload a lot. I have used a single stage press (RockChucker) for a long time but the reloading process was just eating up too much time and cutting into fishing and other activities. So I broke down and finally bought a Dillon 550. Best money I ever spent. Makes reloading enjoyable again as it was becoming a chore with the single stage.
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I'm not a reloader, but have thought a lot about doing that part of the shooting sports. Especially after reading many of the Henry posts----how much everyone does with reloading, and how much it is enjoyed, too.
This is an interesting thread with a lot of twists and turns. As I've been reading it, I think I will start digging out the info I have already gathered on reloading and study it again. My biggest challenge is the space factor. I live in a 740 sq. ft. apartment, and there is very little room here for any reloading space. But I'm now thinking I can maybe build a solid reload bench, make it out of CCW wood, and just set it up on my patio. Of course, reloading time would then depend on the weather. Anyway, space is the initial hurdle.
What I've always wanted to reload is shotgun slugs. I do shoot both centerfire ammo, and mostly rimfire ammo. Of all ammo I use, my need is not to make a lot of ammo because I don't use that much. And since I don't shoot a lot, I don't consider reloading to be a cost-saving venture either. Building a good shotgun slug is just plain 'ole fascinating to me.
And I bet it would be a fun challenge, as well.
I may not get passed that initial hurdle of enough space; but at least it will be fun to consider this project once more. Thanks all for the many interesting comments!
This is an interesting thread with a lot of twists and turns. As I've been reading it, I think I will start digging out the info I have already gathered on reloading and study it again. My biggest challenge is the space factor. I live in a 740 sq. ft. apartment, and there is very little room here for any reloading space. But I'm now thinking I can maybe build a solid reload bench, make it out of CCW wood, and just set it up on my patio. Of course, reloading time would then depend on the weather. Anyway, space is the initial hurdle.
What I've always wanted to reload is shotgun slugs. I do shoot both centerfire ammo, and mostly rimfire ammo. Of all ammo I use, my need is not to make a lot of ammo because I don't use that much. And since I don't shoot a lot, I don't consider reloading to be a cost-saving venture either. Building a good shotgun slug is just plain 'ole fascinating to me.
I may not get passed that initial hurdle of enough space; but at least it will be fun to consider this project once more. Thanks all for the many interesting comments!
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We picked up some 9mm aluminum case ammo at Wal-mart, this morning, for 19 cents a round. That's cheaper than 22 mag or even 17HMR. In fact, that's in the better grade of 22 LR target ammo category. Aluminum case, so no brass to chase, either. Be tough to justify reloading 9mm at this price. The stuff shoots pretty dang good out of our 9mm 1911s.


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Great shooting NCG
I just did the math on my 40 SW . The bullets cost me 2.6 cents each [ free if I cast them ] The primers are 1.6 cents each . The powder cost me 1.5 cent each . Which is a little over a nickle [.052 ] each . I can make 100 rds in a hour with a single stage press . It normally takes me 3 hrs with all the extra steps I take .
I even run factory ammo in my taper crimp die and or cartridge checker . I check ALL ammo fit in my barrel before I load it in my gun or mag I carry .
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/58205 ... 40-s-and-w

My ammo matches my high dollar Winc 180 HP FBI loads in speed , recoil , POA and POI . Just $30. a box cheaper .

I just did the math on my 40 SW . The bullets cost me 2.6 cents each [ free if I cast them ] The primers are 1.6 cents each . The powder cost me 1.5 cent each . Which is a little over a nickle [.052 ] each . I can make 100 rds in a hour with a single stage press . It normally takes me 3 hrs with all the extra steps I take .
I even run factory ammo in my taper crimp die and or cartridge checker . I check ALL ammo fit in my barrel before I load it in my gun or mag I carry .
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/58205 ... 40-s-and-w

My ammo matches my high dollar Winc 180 HP FBI loads in speed , recoil , POA and POI . Just $30. a box cheaper .

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This is one of the reasons I'm a shooter and not a collector. It's also one of the reasons I have limited my guns to just a few calibers.
44 mag and special
22lr
45/70
45 acp
The more calibers you reload the more time it takes and the more the set up costs. I have the stuff to reload 45 acp but so far have just bought bulk ammo. It's so common the costs are low. and round counts can be high at times. That's a lot of time at the bench to keep up.
44 mag and 45/70 are not cheap. Reloading does keep those costs down and allows me to load low recoil stuff I'd have a hard time buying.
I do understand the lack of time. We are getting older and have spent a lot of time cleaning out the properties of an ageing relative that was somewhat of a hoarder. It really makes one step back and take a hard look at your own self and stuff and how much BS you may leave behind for someone else to deal with. The older I get the more I'm getting rid of and simplifying. I want to own my stuff. I don't like being owned by it. Which is what happens when you have too much stuff. Too much time spent maintaining and not enough using. We all have to find the balance in life that works for us!
44 mag and special
22lr
45/70
45 acp
The more calibers you reload the more time it takes and the more the set up costs. I have the stuff to reload 45 acp but so far have just bought bulk ammo. It's so common the costs are low. and round counts can be high at times. That's a lot of time at the bench to keep up.
44 mag and 45/70 are not cheap. Reloading does keep those costs down and allows me to load low recoil stuff I'd have a hard time buying.
I do understand the lack of time. We are getting older and have spent a lot of time cleaning out the properties of an ageing relative that was somewhat of a hoarder. It really makes one step back and take a hard look at your own self and stuff and how much BS you may leave behind for someone else to deal with. The older I get the more I'm getting rid of and simplifying. I want to own my stuff. I don't like being owned by it. Which is what happens when you have too much stuff. Too much time spent maintaining and not enough using. We all have to find the balance in life that works for us!
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Good points, guys.
Yeah, the irony of having to choose between reloading time and shooting time still floors me, but there's no escaping it, especially when I find myself shooting air guns on an almost daily basis. Let's see, sit at the bench or shoot one of our many excellent air guns, which I can do right at home for literally pennies a shot? Not even close for me. Shooting wins every time.
We all know that reloading time is also more than just cranking out ammo. As mentioned, there's setup time. There's also the hassle of finding and buying components. We don't have a good local source, so it's mostly online for us. That eats up more time, waiting for components to arrive and that's assuming you can get exactly what you want. We all know how that goes.
Yeah, the irony of having to choose between reloading time and shooting time still floors me, but there's no escaping it, especially when I find myself shooting air guns on an almost daily basis. Let's see, sit at the bench or shoot one of our many excellent air guns, which I can do right at home for literally pennies a shot? Not even close for me. Shooting wins every time.
We all know that reloading time is also more than just cranking out ammo. As mentioned, there's setup time. There's also the hassle of finding and buying components. We don't have a good local source, so it's mostly online for us. That eats up more time, waiting for components to arrive and that's assuming you can get exactly what you want. We all know how that goes.
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Where are you finding bullets for $0.026 & primers at $0.016 each? That is $13.00 for 500 bullets & $16.00 for 1000 primers. Haven't seen those prices in a while.tx gunrunner wrote:Great shooting NCG
I just did the math on my 40 SW . The bullets cost me 2.6 cents each [ free if I cast them ] The primers are 1.6 cents each . The powder cost me 1.5 cent each . Which is a little over a nickle [.052 ] each . I can make 100 rds in a hour with a single stage press . It normally takes me 3 hrs with all the extra steps I take .
I even run factory ammo in my taper crimp die and or cartridge checker . I check ALL ammo fit in my barrel before I load it in my gun or mag I carry .
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/58205 ... 40-s-and-w
My ammo matches my high dollar Winc 180 HP FBI loads in speed , recoil , POA and POI . Just $30. a box cheaper .
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Here is where I get the bullets , they are free if I cast my own . These are not the cheap one but these are the best . 38 and 9MM bullets are a lot cheaper to buy . I wait for deals on primers , I got over 30,000 Fed primes a few year back with free shipping & Hazmat at $16/1000 . I buy Unique powder $103 / 8lbs [ 7000 grain in a lbs x 8 is 56,000 gr ] that is near 10,000 rds at 5.6 grs most of my pistol loads are between 3.5 and 6.0 grs of Unique . You do the math . My math is not my strong point . So you post the correct numbers I never do the per round stuff I get confused in the math .


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I live near Ft Hood Tx and I got Tons of stuff to sell at a super deal package deal on guns or powder , primers or reloading stuff . Since your not that far from me bring LOTS of money for a super package deal . I'm not going piece this stuff out and my health would let be sell at gun shows . The more you buy the better the deal gets .Estacado wrote:Sorry to hear you are getting out of reloading. A persons gotta do what a persons gotta do. I have down sized on a lot of things, but not reloading. I get as much pleasure from reloading as I do shooting. It is like meditation to me. It is very soothing for me to go to my reloading room and crank out a few shells. It relieves the daily stress.
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NCG,
Good posts and thank you for being on this forum. I enjoy your posts as I do the other people here.
There is nothing wrong if you stopped reloading after many years for any reason or even if you never reloaded to begin with in my opinion.
Do what suits YOU and/or your husband.
My late husband and I never reloaded. He shot far less than I did and owned only a few guns in his life. I shot a LOT and often as most of you know in the past. I owned more guns that he did from the 90's and on.
I would have still bought factory ammunition for myself even if I continued to shoot a lot... back east or out west. I would continue to watch my budget as I always did. I always bought common caliber firearms shy of my former Ruger Blackhawk in 45 Long Colt which cost more money to buy ammo wise but IT was worth every cent to me. My firearms could share the same ammo too. ALL but the 9mm and 45Long Colt back east - I only owned one of each of them but I had duplicate caliber firearms in 22lr, 22wmr-cylinder which I rarely used, 357Magnum and 38Special. I only owned 3 RF rifles back east. Former guns now.
Out west... surprise gifts of 44 Magnum handguns - Smith and Wesson Model 29-2 and -3. Ammo was reloaded for those former handguns but I did have one box of 44 Special factory ammo for it. One Marlin 336C in 30-30 which was the first CF rifle that I owned. I had reloaded AND factory ammo for the former 30-30 rifle.
My MT husband did reload for me as I have mentioned in the past when I used to own and shoot my former CF handguns. He reloaded for a couple of CF rifles for me too. Now, if he did not choose or like to reload for any reason... he would have bought factory ammo as I did for many years in the past. (He couldn't reload for a few years due to his crazy 24/7 work schedule and space. He did have his 'competition', hunting and self defense reloaded ammo on hand in his ammo boxes and he had some factory ammo too.)
A friend of ours said he feels funny when asked if he reloads and he says that he does not. I told him not to feel funny about it because it does NOT interest him. I was going to learn how to reload with my late husband, back east, but after he got cancer and died... I had NO interest in doing this. However with that said, I do encourage my husband on his reloading since it IS a big part of his life. I have helped our friends FIND reloading products when the fake/real 'shortages' were going on too.
I only shoot 22lr rifles now and not that often. I have not shot a CF rifle for some time now.
Air guns are fun to shoot. I have seen some people practice for competition shoots with them, back east. Some fancy rifles that I never saw before in my life and that was many years ago.
I always thought that my former RED RYDER 1938 Replica rifle was FUN and cool to shoot. I used to shoot that a LOT in my driveway at my former house that I built with my late husband back east. Rural area - I had a nice simple set up. I did not set up a air gun range in my full basement but I could have done that too.
Take care and good shooting to you and your husband!
Cate
Good posts and thank you for being on this forum. I enjoy your posts as I do the other people here.
There is nothing wrong if you stopped reloading after many years for any reason or even if you never reloaded to begin with in my opinion.
Do what suits YOU and/or your husband.
My late husband and I never reloaded. He shot far less than I did and owned only a few guns in his life. I shot a LOT and often as most of you know in the past. I owned more guns that he did from the 90's and on.
I would have still bought factory ammunition for myself even if I continued to shoot a lot... back east or out west. I would continue to watch my budget as I always did. I always bought common caliber firearms shy of my former Ruger Blackhawk in 45 Long Colt which cost more money to buy ammo wise but IT was worth every cent to me. My firearms could share the same ammo too. ALL but the 9mm and 45Long Colt back east - I only owned one of each of them but I had duplicate caliber firearms in 22lr, 22wmr-cylinder which I rarely used, 357Magnum and 38Special. I only owned 3 RF rifles back east. Former guns now.
Out west... surprise gifts of 44 Magnum handguns - Smith and Wesson Model 29-2 and -3. Ammo was reloaded for those former handguns but I did have one box of 44 Special factory ammo for it. One Marlin 336C in 30-30 which was the first CF rifle that I owned. I had reloaded AND factory ammo for the former 30-30 rifle.
My MT husband did reload for me as I have mentioned in the past when I used to own and shoot my former CF handguns. He reloaded for a couple of CF rifles for me too. Now, if he did not choose or like to reload for any reason... he would have bought factory ammo as I did for many years in the past. (He couldn't reload for a few years due to his crazy 24/7 work schedule and space. He did have his 'competition', hunting and self defense reloaded ammo on hand in his ammo boxes and he had some factory ammo too.)
A friend of ours said he feels funny when asked if he reloads and he says that he does not. I told him not to feel funny about it because it does NOT interest him. I was going to learn how to reload with my late husband, back east, but after he got cancer and died... I had NO interest in doing this. However with that said, I do encourage my husband on his reloading since it IS a big part of his life. I have helped our friends FIND reloading products when the fake/real 'shortages' were going on too.
I only shoot 22lr rifles now and not that often. I have not shot a CF rifle for some time now.
Air guns are fun to shoot. I have seen some people practice for competition shoots with them, back east. Some fancy rifles that I never saw before in my life and that was many years ago.
I always thought that my former RED RYDER 1938 Replica rifle was FUN and cool to shoot. I used to shoot that a LOT in my driveway at my former house that I built with my late husband back east. Rural area - I had a nice simple set up. I did not set up a air gun range in my full basement but I could have done that too.
Take care and good shooting to you and your husband!
Cate
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