The red dot rossi report

[Bill.68]

Took the rossi 454 out again with the red dot to use full house 454 loads to see if the dot and the mount survived, they did, I think.
Ive had this lottle burris ff3 for years and used it on alot of stuff but I think that 6lb 454 is probably the hardest bucking bronc its rode.
I do have a pretty bad astigmatism and dots are never dots but I never noticed it being quite as fuzzy. I guess the astigmatism could be getting worse.
I shot over 150 heavy 45colt rounds and about 20 really thumpin 454 rounds through it. The increase in hit probability is really amazing me. Shot at 100yds this time. No pics, I was jist slamming steel but I hit it alot. I even fired a few at the 200yd plates and scored a few. I was quite surprised how well those 305gr swc fly. Im estimating here but the powder, according to the vectan burn rate chart puts 6.5 on par (same line) as h110, 296, enforcer and N110 so out of that 20" barrel vs a 7.25 from Hodgdon I guess 1500- 1550fps, maybe a bit more. Quite accurate bullet from Matts. The 454 was hurling 350gr wfn from Matts and they should be scootin along at about the same clip. Those things hurt a lottle. Glad rossi had the foresight to add that quite nice pad.

[Vaquero]

Sounds like a fun and productive day.
I like just shooting the steel myself.

RP

[Hatchdog]

That’s great. I don’t have much experience with red dots but I’m thinking 200 yards is asking a lot from one but I’ve never shot one at that distance.

[BigAl52]

Took the rossi 454 out again with the red dot to use full house 454 loads to see if the dot and the mount survived, they did, I think.
Ive had this lottle burris ff3 for years and used it on alot of stuff but I think that 6lb 454 is probably the hardest bucking bronc its rode.
I do have a pretty bad astigmatism and dots are never dots but I never noticed it being quite as fuzzy. I guess the astigmatism could be getting worse.
I shot over 150 heavy 45colt rounds and about 20 really thumpin 454 rounds through it. The increase in hit probability is really amazing me. Shot at 100yds this time. No pics, I was jist slamming steel but I hit it alot. I even fired a few at the 200yd plates and scored a few. I was quite surprised how well those 305gr swc fly. Im estimating here but the powder, according to the vectan burn rate chart puts 6.5 on par (same line) as h110, 296, enforcer and N110 so out of that 20" barrel vs a 7.25 from Hodgdon I guess 1500- 1550fps, maybe a bit more. Quite accurate bullet from Matts. The 454 was hurling 350gr wfn from Matts and they should be scootin along at about the same clip. Those things hurt a lottle. Glad rossi had the foresight to add that quite nice pad.

Have you tried a green dot?

[Bill.68]

That’s great. I don’t have much experience with red dots but I’m thinking 200 yards is asking a lot from one but I’ve never shot one at that distance.

Actually I can easily hit steel out to 300 easily. The key to using red dots at distance is having a 1, 2, or 3 moa(at most) dot size. The bigger the dot the more it covers the target at distance, naturally. Theyre not for precision shooting for sure. They are quick and very easy to use though.

[Bill.68]

Took the rossi 454 out again with the red dot to use full house 454 loads to see if the dot and the mount survived, they did, I think.
Ive had this lottle burris ff3 for years and used it on alot of stuff but I think that 6lb 454 is probably the hardest bucking bronc its rode.
I do have a pretty bad astigmatism and dots are never dots but I never noticed it being quite as fuzzy. I guess the astigmatism could be getting worse.
I shot over 150 heavy 45colt rounds and about 20 really thumpin 454 rounds through it. The increase in hit probability is really amazing me. Shot at 100yds this time. No pics, I was jist slamming steel but I hit it alot. I even fired a few at the 200yd plates and scored a few. I was quite surprised how well those 305gr swc fly. Im estimating here but the powder, according to the vectan burn rate chart puts 6.5 on par (same line) as h110, 296, enforcer and N110 so out of that 20" barrel vs a 7.25 from Hodgdon I guess 1500- 1550fps, maybe a bit more. Quite accurate bullet from Matts. The 454 was hurling 350gr wfn from Matts and they should be scootin along at about the same clip. Those things hurt a lottle. Glad rossi had the foresight to add that quite nice pad.

Have you tried a green dot?

Green? The make green?

Just kidding. Yes, yes I have. Easier for many to see, myself included. The Burris I have is so old the green wasnt even a thing when I bought it. I do like green though. I have an eotech with the green reticle and its wonderful, sadly though its the only one I own.
I have the eotech, the burris, a sig romeo5, a sig romeo7 and a vortex uh-1. My favorite is the vortex. That is a really nice sight. Love that thing. Second is the eotech.

[BigAl52]

https://www.amazon.com/Cyelee-Trijicon- ... ems&sr=1-9

I have 3 of these like them alot. Have a close friend who bought one he likes it as well. Green is more user friendly to me.

[North Country Gal]

Cataracts can make red dots look even more fuzzy. Just been though that. Got the cataracts removed and my red dots are much sharper, now.

[BrokenolMarine]

I just put a sig red dot on a 336 Marlin for the wife. The laser sight in device is due in today so I can dial in the red dot, then we can tweek it with a group or two. She'll have that Marlin as an Option for large predators around the barn/coop area.

[Bill.68]

Now Im making a stock cover with a cheek riser to line everything up. It will be like the one I made for my bigboy, hopefully a lityle more refined though. I should look like this

[BrokenolMarine]

I might make one for Tina, try and carve a deer or her name on it.
Put some bullet loops for a few extra rounds on it?

[Bill.68]

They certainly make it easier to get a decent cheekweld. The one on my Henry is fairly crude but its functional.

[Hatchdog]

Now Im making a stock cover with a cheek riser to line everything up. It will be like the one I made for my bigboy, hopefully a lityle more refined though. I should look like this

That looks great, nice work for sure. I use a cheek riser too buy mine’s one of those store bought ones.

[Bill.68]

So, it has to look something like this, and this is THE minimum height for seeing the dot, in the bottom of the window.





I thankfully did remember to make sure this one tapers downward toward the muzzel end so as to not slam so hard into the orbital bone upon firing. Its bad enough with the 44mag so I van only imagine how bad it would be with a 454.

Of course its totally shapable at this point and I may do shome final shaping and then the small details and the lacing and a finish. Im thinking just neetsfoot oil on this one but its about at its final shape. I know it looks quiye high and a bit wonky but thats the height it needs to be to be of any use with that dot. It is comfortable though so that counts for something.

[rickhem]

Is there a stock that would align better for optic use?
You'd think that with all the new tactical levergun options, that someone somewhere would have one that gives proper comb height on a replacement stock.

[Bill.68]

Not that Im aware of. I dont think I could anyway, all of that "tactical" levergun stuff is about as ridiculous as it gets. Ive come to loath that word, tactical. Personally I dont know how a firearm, or any other inanimate object can be tactical. The word implies having tactics no?

Ill see how this works out. I think, well hope that with some final shaping this wont look as unbalanced, and it is quite comfortable.

On an 1892, a stock would have to have a pretty high comb to facilitate the use of any optic. Youll note how low that little red dot is, can you imagine trying a scope? If it wasnt a rossi I might be persuaded to attempt making a stock set for it but knowing me the way I do I would have to use some aaa fancy walnut and again, its a rossi.

[Bill.68]

Final product.

[Hatchdog]

Color worked out nicely. The “stacked” pieces of leather making the riser look nice, the lamination works great for the visual.

[Bill.68]

Yeah, the color is about the best thing about it. Well that and I can use the dot with a good cheekweld now. That was the goal.