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Re: LA wildfires

Post by Vaquero » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:29 am

Cowboy Gun Fan wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:06 am
Vaquero wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:02 pm
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Tue Jan 14, 2025 4:35 pm
Just located an interesting video that explains a lot of things, but I believe it's too political for here. I posted it over at MarlinOwners though. Mods, let me know if I can post a link to it.
In what section??
I'm a member there, but under a different name,
Pereira.

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It's in the Asylum in the "CA Wildfires - Updated" thread, post #18.

I'm 336 Fan there.
Found it, pretty interesting.

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Re: LA wildfires

Post by GunnyGene » Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:04 am

Take this for what it's worth, but some residents in the fire zones are armed and protecting their property in spite of the rules.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/fires-armed ... s-a40de302
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Re: LA wildfires

Post by Cowboy Gun Fan » Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:40 am

GunnyGene wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:04 am
Take this for what it's worth, but some residents in the fire zones are armed and protecting their property in spite of the rules.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/fires-armed ... s-a40de302
I could only read what the site allowed, but I don't blame them and if I were there I would be right alongside with them. Also, there is no way anyone would keep me from going back to my own property. Not without a fight anyway and even if I had to some how sneak back in.
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Re: LA wildfires

Post by Vaquero » Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:07 pm

Cowboy Gun Fan wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:40 am
GunnyGene wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:04 am
Take this for what it's worth, but some residents in the fire zones are armed and protecting their property in spite of the rules.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/fires-armed ... s-a40de302
I could only read what the site allowed, but I don't blame them and if I were there I would be right alongside with them. Also, there is no way anyone would keep me from going back to my own property. Not without a fight anyway and even if I had to some how sneak back in.
I didn't even read it, but will I agree with you 100%.

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Re: LA wildfires

Post by GunnyGene » Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:57 pm

Cowboy Gun Fan wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:40 am
GunnyGene wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:04 am
Take this for what it's worth, but some residents in the fire zones are armed and protecting their property in spite of the rules.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/fires-armed ... s-a40de302
I could only read what the site allowed, but I don't blame them and if I were there I would be right alongside with them. Also, there is no way anyone would keep me from going back to my own property. Not without a fight anyway and even if I had to some how sneak back in.
An excerpt I lifted earlier that may help:
LOS ANGELES—In the still-smoldering neighborhoods of Altadena, where fires destroyed more than 2,700 structures, about 80 people have defied orders to evacuate, staying behind to protect what is left of their properties from looters and more fires after losing faith in authorities.

Residents patrol streets and interrogate strangers, living in a Hobbesian world without electricity or clean drinking water. Some are armed. They are hemmed in by yellow caution tape at neighborhood entrances flanked by National Guard troops, Los Angeles County Sheriff deputies and California Highway Patrol officers.

"We do feel like we're in the Wild West," said Aaron Lubeley, a 53-year-old lawyer who is one of the holdouts and serves as an unofficial emissary with police and fire representatives.
If Lubeley and the others try to leave, they risk being unable to return. On Monday, one of Lubeley's friends, Janely Sandoval, delivered essentials. The real-estate broker drove her white Mercedes SUV up to the neighborhood checkpoint and stacked supplies for Lubeley and others at the makeshift border: water, bagels, bananas, grain-free tortilla chips and other staples.
"Can you guys hurry up?" one officer told Sandoval as she finished. "We just got an order not to allow any supplies through."
Before Sandoval departed, Lubeley asked, "Can I hug my friend?"
The officer nodded, and Lubeley and Sandoval embraced across the yellow caution tape.

Farther west, residents of the Pacific Palisades, much of it in ruins, engage in their own standoff with public-safety officials.

Police and fire officials say they are keeping residents from returning to burned neighborhoods because of such hazards as downed power lines and precarious fire-weakened trees. “Do not go back in there. Do not sneak in there,” said Brian Rice, president of the California Professional Firefighters union. “It’s not worth losing your life over.”

The message isn’t getting across to everyone.

Pacific Palisades resident Ross Gerber, president of a wealth-management firm, is among those who have been sneaking past police to check on his house, official edicts be damned. “I have no patience for any of them,” he said. “After you survive this, you don’t care what they say.”

On Tuesday morning, Gerber, 53, was thwarted. “I’m trying to sneak in right now and it’s super hard,” he said by phone, his voice winded as he walked briskly, looking for an opening. Police had entry points “tight as hell,” he said. “They are everywhere now.”

Using a map, Gerber said he tried stairs and alleyways to slip past authorities until finally deciding to retreat. “There are literally so many police,” he said. “North Korea is easier.”

Gerber’s house sits in a neighborhood shaded by towering eucalyptus trees. It is set back from some of the hardest-hit areas of the Palisades, where opulent homes perched high above the Pacific Ocean now make up a landscape of smoking, gutted properties.

Houses still standing, including Gerber’s, have no electricity or safe drinking water. He has decamped with his family to the Ritz Carlton in the oceanfront Marina del Rey neighborhood.

Gerber joined with neighbors to hire a private water truck and driver to sit by their empty homes in case of another fire outbreak. The water truck was initially blocked from entering the neighborhood by law-enforcement officers.

“So we called somebody who was very important who called Gavin Newsom and told him to let our water truck into our neighborhood,” Gerber said.

Gov. Newsom’s office didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Rebel force

Gerber, the Pacific Palisades resident, managed to check his house on Thursday and Friday last week without interference by authorities. He carried a firearm, he said, and walked around local streets with neighbors, questioning anyone the group didn’t recognize. “The whole neighborhood banded together,” he said.

Many residents waited hours for police escorts to their property. Officers led small groups of cars to their properties, warning residents they had only a few minutes to gather valuables and essential belongings. Gerber said he was able to navigate his way past authorities alone.

On Sunday, officials ended those home checks. “People are saying: ‘I just want to go to my house and see what’s left,’” Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna said Monday at a news conference. “We know that, but we have people literally looking for the remains of your neighbors.”

“I get that they’ll say this is ‘the rule,’ but it’s our land and our neighborhood and as much as I respect the authorities, we’re much more competent than them,” Gerber said. “Let us in to defend our neighborhood.”

Gerber and his neighbors have turned to their community WhatsApp, which had been used largely to air minor gripes about traffic and such. Now, it is an organizing tool, he said, “better than any government.”

He had long been skeptical of the system, he said, but the fires further showed him that communities need to be prepared to fend for themselves.

After this disaster is over, Gerber said, he hopes the neighborhood will build “our own fire-like militia.”
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Re: LA wildfires

Post by dave77 » Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:59 pm

Vaquero wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:29 am
Cowboy Gun Fan wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:06 am
Vaquero wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:02 pm


In what section??
I'm a member there, but under a different name,
Pereira.

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It's in the Asylum in the "CA Wildfires - Updated" thread, post #18.

I'm 336 Fan there.
Found it, pretty interesting.

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I can't find it, maybe looking on the wrong site

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Re: LA wildfires

Post by Cowboy Gun Fan » Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:54 pm

dave77 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:59 pm
Vaquero wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:29 am
Cowboy Gun Fan wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:06 am


It's in the Asylum in the "CA Wildfires - Updated" thread, post #18.

I'm 336 Fan there.
Found it, pretty interesting.

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I can't find it, maybe looking on the wrong site
To be able to reach the Asylum forum, you need to be a registered member there.
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Re: LA wildfires

Post by daytime dave » Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:23 pm

I couldn't find Asylum and I'm registered there.
Perhaps I'm in one................and don't know it.............. :lol: :D :P :mrgreen:

Update,
I found it. Yeah, probably better off leaving things like that over there.
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Re: LA wildfires

Post by Mags » Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:24 pm

When I went looking, nothing newer than Dec 7th was visible to non-members.

There also appears to be two look alike forums.
https://www.marlinowners.com
https://www.marlinforum.com
UPDATES: OR passes 114, "one of strictest gun control measures in U.S." https://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic. ... 34#p213234

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Re: LA wildfires

Post by Cowboy Gun Fan » Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:37 pm

The first link is the correct one.
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Re: LA wildfires

Post by Cowboy Gun Fan » Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:40 pm

The first link is the correct one.

Note to any members wanting to join over there. The site is still good, but nothing like it used to be. Once the site changed formats, which was a big step backwards, we lost a lot of members. And it's even gotten a little worse since then.

One thing I can say about the Henry site here. Maybe we are limited to what we can say, but it's been consistently good.
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Re: LA wildfires

Post by GFK » Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:27 pm

I have found variety to be a good thing, except maybe in marriage. It is kind of hard to find a one-size to fit all. I Iike Henry forum because of the lack of foolishness. I like Marlin forum, because it push the limit at times. Both seems to work for me. Like Almond Joy and Mounds, at times, I like to live on the edge.
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Re: LA wildfires

Post by Mags » Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:52 pm

... and Snickers...
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Re: LA wildfires

Post by Sir Henry » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:06 pm

…..Milky Way.
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Re: LA wildfires

Post by dave77 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:37 am

Cowboy Gun Fan wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:40 pm
The first link is the correct one.

Note to any members wanting to join over there. The site is still good, but nothing like it used to be. Once the site changed formats, which was a big step backwards, we lost a lot of members. And it's even gotten a little worse since then.

One thing I can say about the Henry site here. Maybe we are limited to what we can say, but it's been consistently good.
I'm on the Beretta forum and while it does allow some political discussion the mods will lock or even delete a thread that gets out of hand.

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Re: LA wildfires

Post by Vaquero » Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:30 am

dave77 wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:37 am
Cowboy Gun Fan wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:40 pm
The first link is the correct one.

Note to any members wanting to join over there. The site is still good, but nothing like it used to be. Once the site changed formats, which was a big step backwards, we lost a lot of members. And it's even gotten a little worse since then.

One thing I can say about the Henry site here. Maybe we are limited to what we can say, but it's been consistently good.
I'm on the Beretta forum and while it does allow some political discussion the mods will lock or even delete a thread that gets out of hand.
Same over on Levergunscoundrels forum that I am a member of.
It's smaller forum like this one.

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Re: LA wildfires

Post by cooperhawk » Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:52 am

I used to be on the Marlin Forum and also the Ruger Forum. Politics did get a bit testy and I dropped out
of both. This place is friendly.

Let's keep it that way.
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Re: LA wildfires

Post by daytime dave » Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:59 am

cooperhawk wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:52 am
I used to be on the Marlin Forum and also the Ruger Forum. Politics did get a bit testy and I dropped out
of both. This place is friendly.

Let's keep it that way.
I'll second that motion.
I'm glad to hear the positive comments.
We can all go someplace else for the other stuff. I do, on a rare occasion.
I think this is mostly a group of friends with common interests.

Let's send prayers and positive thoughts to those out in Los Angeles and other areas that need them.
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Re: LA wildfires

Post by GFK » Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:46 pm

Sir Henry wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:06 pm
…..Milky Way.
Mags wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:52 pm
... and Snickers...
:lol:
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Re: LA wildfires

Post by Hatchdog » Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:37 am

We had a conversation with our son/stepson who loves being a California resident. (Funny, he was born there and lived there for eight years, then lived here from 8-22 and then moved back). Anyway, we asked him if he thought that with their homes being destroyed would there be an exodus of residents to other states and he didn’t think so. Not sure if I agree.

Also, I think he might have been wrong about his sister-in-laws home in Pacific Palisades. Looking at the damage map posted online while her actual home does not show damage status yet most of the homes in the area are fine. Fingers crossed. Her place is near the origin of the fire and close to the reservoir that is empty.

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