Thanks for the information. I just loaded each to their respective cannelures and didn't consider the slight difference in seating depth.
Site seems to be OK. Load issue should be resolved now.
What did you do at your reloading bench today?
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Re: What did you do at your reloading bench today?
I sorted and bagged brass by caliber........I have a LOT of it.
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I bought some Hornady Custom 44 mag ammo to try for grouping comparison to my hunting loads. I'm shooting a BB CCH Carbine.
First thing I noticed was the OAL was 1.580" vs. their manual (and many others) of 1.600". No big deal, but also the case length was only 1.255" rather than the Trim To length, they and others cite as 1.275". The bullet was the familiar 240 gr. XTP. (A great bullet I've used on deer in a handgun). The cannelure lined up well with the case mouth (with low OAL making up for the low case length). There was a very slight crimp from what I could see using a magnifying glass.
I shot 3 groups of 5 at 100 yards and they were tighter groups than mine averaging. 1.8" vs. 2.3" and they were a higher velocity, 1741 fps vs. 1718 fps.
So with the remaining 5 rounds, I extracted the bullets and used their powder in my trimmed down WW cases. I don't know if their primer was mag or not, but their powder was flake like H110 and about the same grain weight as my H110 load, so I used a mag primer as I do in my H110 loads. I also seated them to 1.580" and gave them a very light crimp.
So for comparison of how these 5 shoot now, the variables are the case and maybe the primer. I plan to shoot them and a few other test loads the next low wind day. It's been blowing 12-15 mph the past two weeks.
First thing I noticed was the OAL was 1.580" vs. their manual (and many others) of 1.600". No big deal, but also the case length was only 1.255" rather than the Trim To length, they and others cite as 1.275". The bullet was the familiar 240 gr. XTP. (A great bullet I've used on deer in a handgun). The cannelure lined up well with the case mouth (with low OAL making up for the low case length). There was a very slight crimp from what I could see using a magnifying glass.
I shot 3 groups of 5 at 100 yards and they were tighter groups than mine averaging. 1.8" vs. 2.3" and they were a higher velocity, 1741 fps vs. 1718 fps.
So with the remaining 5 rounds, I extracted the bullets and used their powder in my trimmed down WW cases. I don't know if their primer was mag or not, but their powder was flake like H110 and about the same grain weight as my H110 load, so I used a mag primer as I do in my H110 loads. I also seated them to 1.580" and gave them a very light crimp.
So for comparison of how these 5 shoot now, the variables are the case and maybe the primer. I plan to shoot them and a few other test loads the next low wind day. It's been blowing 12-15 mph the past two weeks.
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Rainy this morning. Had a pork butt on the pellet smoker from 11 pm last night so while I was waiting I did some reloading. Loaded up 400 rounds of my 357 Mag. plinking load since I was down to 100 loaded. I still have about 300 more cleaned brass and bullets waiting to be loaded. May do that tomorrow since weatherman is predicting more rain. Pork butt finished up after 15 hours. Wrapped it up and let it rest for 2 hours then pulled it. All in all a very productive day.
Paul
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Re: What did you do at your reloading bench today?
Been quiet on the Reloading front. Everyone is having fun doing other things! I'll see if this starts it up again.
Loaded 50 .38 Spl using 4.5 gn of Universal with Berry's 158 gn RN for plinking. I'll shoot these at steel from my S&W 642.
I'm headed back to the bench tomorrow, because 50 won't be enough.
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Loaded 50 .38 Spl using 4.5 gn of Universal with Berry's 158 gn RN for plinking. I'll shoot these at steel from my S&W 642.
I'm headed back to the bench tomorrow, because 50 won't be enough.
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Loaded 500 38 spl. 100 matts 148grn rn hp, 100 matts 158grn swchp, 100 matts 130grn rnfpgc, 100 berry's plated HBWC, 100 147grn blue bullet rn.
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Went to the range on Tuesday and burned thru most of my 30-06 ammo with the M1 Garand. So I figured I better make up some more ammo.
Put back 80 rounds into enblocking clips and made a few extra to finish up the Sierra Match King bullets. The M1 is such a pleasure to shoot that i can burn thru 100 rounds very fast.
Paul
Put back 80 rounds into enblocking clips and made a few extra to finish up the Sierra Match King bullets. The M1 is such a pleasure to shoot that i can burn thru 100 rounds very fast.
Paul
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Headhog, those are some nice looking rounds. Maybe my first time seeing .30-06 with match bullets that gives them the look of an ICBM!!! 
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300 rounds of 357 mag. 100 148grn rn from blue bullets, 100 158 grn swc from blue bullets, 100 158 grn x-treme plated.
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Re: What did you do at your reloading bench today?
Nothing. I installed a new winch on my truck.
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Loaded 100 rounds of 357 mag, 130grn matts rnfp gas checked with 13 grns of imr 4227.
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Ive got some of these in my basement with that exact same load. They shoot ok out of my LCRX but in my Ruger Blackhawks the accuracy isnt as good. Lets us know how they shoot.NHshtr wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 4:36 pmBeen quiet on the Reloading front. Everyone is having fun doing other things! I'll see if this starts it up again.
Loaded 50 .38 Spl using 4.5 gn of Universal with Berry's 158 gn RN for plinking. I'll shoot these at steel from my S&W 642.
I'm headed back to the bench tomorrow, because 50 won't be enough.![]()
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H001T .22LR
H001T .22LR MONUMENT VALLEY
H003T PUMP .22LR
BBS .41 MAG
SS .357
SIDE GATE 38-55
H001T .22LR
H001T .22LR MONUMENT VALLEY
H003T PUMP .22LR
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Re: What did you do at your reloading bench today?
Looking thru my notes, I don't find any .38 spl loads using Universal. Whaaaa? I just may have to rectify that. 4.5gr Universal sounds about right with a 158gr rnfp coated bullet. Thru my Blackhawk.
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RT, I haven't loaded much 38 Spl with Universal, I use Titegroup for those. I have a few loads in my records, but they are all light loads. I do use 6.2 gr. of Universal with the MB 158 RNFP in 357 Mag. loads for both my rifles and handguns. That is one of my favorite loads. I have about 500 rounds of that loaded up and ready to go.
Paul
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Universal and Unique are right next to each other on the burn rate chart. They will load often times with similar amounts
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H001T .22LR MONUMENT VALLEY
H003T PUMP .22LR
BBS .41 MAG
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SIDE GATE 38-55
H001T .22LR
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Agree^^^. With 158gr rnfp coated, it's 6.0gr Universal thru my Henry. That is one accurate load. That and a 180gr rnfp with 11.5gr 2400 plays heck on steel plates at 100 yards. BAM!Headhog wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:29 pmRT, I haven't loaded much 38 Spl with Universal, I use Titegroup for those. I have a few loads in my records, but they are all light loads. I do use 6.2 gr. of Universal with the MB 158 RNFP in 357 Mag. loads for both my rifles and handguns. That is one of my favorite loads. I have about 500 rounds of that loaded up and ready to go.
Paul
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I'm shooting them from my S&W 642 hammerless revolver with 2" barrel, fixed sights, at 10 yards, they group on vertical center, but about an inch to the right, rested. I haven't chronyed them.Rifle Tom wrote: I've got some of these in my basement with that exact same load. They shoot ok out of my LCRX but in my Ruger Blackhawks the accuracy isn't as good. Let us know how they shoot.
Not bad on recoil and easy shooting at 6" steel plates. I can see they'd be different results with the BH. (5" or 7" bbl?).
I've used Bullseye and CFE Pistol as well as W231 with different amounts for each with this bullet as well. Pretty much the same results with some movement of the group. But with steel, they all go down!
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That was BigAl who mentioned the LCRX^^^. No harm, no foul.
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I struck a deal for 12k of 38spl brass and 2k of 158grn lswc.