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357 Magnums at the Range

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357 Magnums at the Range

Post by Headhog » Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:38 pm

Went to the range today to burn-up some of the 357 Magnum ammo I had on the shelf. Took along the Henry BBS, Rossi R92 and Cimarron Pistolero. Turned out it was a little warm today at 90 F. Set up my steel rack at about 45 yards for the rifles and a paper target at 15 yards for the pistol.

Had a lot of fun making the steel jump and swing around and also punch some holes in the paper. Below are the implements for having fun.

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Since this was a hotter load than I've been using, I decided to see how it grouped. So I moved the paper target to 45 yards and fired 5 shots from the Henry and 5 from the Rossi. Both of these rifles were zeroed with a lighter charge of Universal. I bumped this charge up by 0.4 gr. to see the results. As I expected both rifles shot lower, but grouped well. I also noticed this when I was shooting the steel as I missed the first few times until I started aiming at the tops of the steel.

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The 5 shots from the Rossi, circled in white, produced a great group. The Henry group, circled in pink, was not as impressive. The big problem with the Henry is the front bead is too large and completely covered the black area while aiming. The front post on the Rossi is rather thin and is easy to place in the black area center. So with the Henry I couldn't see any side to side or up and down wobble. But what the heck, shooting is all about having fun and doing what you enjoy.

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Re: 357 Magnums at the Range

Post by Ernie » Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:11 pm

Sounds like a nice day out. I am gathering some Information for reloading and you say faster shoots lower? Meaning flatter?\
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Re: 357 Magnums at the Range

Post by Rifletom » Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:16 pm

Rossi sure is shooting nice. The Henry will come around. How'd the Pistolero do?
What's the loads? It is indeed a good way to have fun Paul.

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Re: 357 Magnums at the Range

Post by Headhog » Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:26 pm

Ernie wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:11 pm
Sounds like a nice day out. I am gathering some Information for reloading and you say faster shoots lower? Meaning flatter?\
Ernie
Yes faster shoots flatter, but the reason for slower ammo shooting higher is more time in the barrel. The slower bullet takes more time leaving the barrel and the barrel rise from recoil is more during this time. So the slower round strikes higher on the target.

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Re: 357 Magnums at the Range

Post by Ernie » Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:30 pm

Headhog wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:26 pm
Ernie wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:11 pm
Sounds like a nice day out. I am gathering some Information for reloading and you say faster shoots lower? Meaning flatter?\
Ernie
Yes faster shoots flatter, but the reason for slower ammo shooting lower is more time in the barrel. The slower bullet takes more time leaving the barrel and the barrel rise from recoil is more during this time. So the slower round strikes higher on the target.

Paul
You state slower ammo shoots lower, then state slower ammo strikes higher. I am going to go with the second one. That makes sense. Thank you.

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Re: 357 Magnums at the Range

Post by Headhog » Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:39 pm

Ernie wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:30 pm
Headhog wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:26 pm
Ernie wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:11 pm
Sounds like a nice day out. I am gathering some Information for reloading and you say faster shoots lower? Meaning flatter?\
Ernie
Yes faster shoots flatter, but the reason for slower ammo shooting lower is more time in the barrel. The slower bullet takes more time leaving the barrel and the barrel rise from recoil is more during this time. So the slower round strikes higher on the target.

Paul
You state slower ammo shoots lower, then state slower ammo strikes higher. I am going to go with the second one. That makes sense. Thank you.
Sorry I was in a hurry and got my word mixed up. I'll edit my post.

Paul

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Re: 357 Magnums at the Range

Post by fortyshooter » Tue Aug 30, 2022 10:17 pm

All good hits there Paul! I hope to get some plinking in soon when the humidity breaks a bit.

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Re: 357 Magnums at the Range

Post by Sir Henry » Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:43 am

Nice shooting with the Rossi. I wouldn’t have thought the flatter shooting because of speed would have made that much difference at 45 yards. I wonder what the same elevation hit distance would be. I’m not all that familiar with 38/357 even though I have the same rifle.

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Re: 357 Magnums at the Range

Post by Vaquero » Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:52 am

Nice shootin, sounds like you had a good time.
That ole Rossi showing up the Henry there. :lol:
I have a pair of Rossis myself, a SS 357 with the 24" octagon, and
a blued 20" barreled 45 colt.
Both shoot high at 50 yds.
I've taken the rear sight elevators out of both just so I can hit at 50.
Not shot the 45 at 100 yds., but the 357 is on at a 100.
Can ring that 8" gong consistently.

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Re: 357 Magnums at the Range

Post by BrokenolMarine » Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:54 am

With the Henry sight, try floating the ball, use a six o'clock hold on the black to keep your point of aim consistent and see if your groups don't tighten up considerably. I also went with the Skinner Peep for my rear sight. Old Eyes these days. I believe they offer a different front sight as well. :)
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