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Post by BrokenolMarine » Sat May 22, 2021 1:45 pm

:twisted:

We have a lot of yotes running around the property, but they have only been nocturnal visitors up to now, and we haven't bothered with them since they haven't bothered the chickens and Miss T didn't have a calf on the ground. When the cow drops in November, we would have the stall enclosed for night protection.

Last week Miss T noticed four of her best laying hens missing. I moved one of the game cams up. The coop is secure at night, so?? Imagine our surprise to see a bold female coyote take a huge female hen at two in the afternoon as they were free ranging around the coop! :twisted:

Boom, dashed through the crowd, missed her on the first pass.

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Looped back and took her on the second. Other chickens looked stunned, then said, "Well, Bye." Went back to scratching.

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My question... I looked for coyote calls on amazon, are the entry level coyote calls like this one worth bothering with:

https://www.amazon.com/ICOtec-GC300-Cal ... NrPXRydWU=

Or do you spend a bit more and get a lot more included calls, and the wavy tail lure. We know we have a half dozen coyotes regularly trotting thru. For now, Miss T has stopped free ranging the chickens. Due to my fractured left wrist, I won't be shooting, but Miss T and her CZ will handle the duties. Ask the Virginia Squirrels who tried to invade the coops for chicken feed. :evil: We don't plan to make a hobby of varmint shooting, just want to control the ones stealing our laying hens and who might later mess with the calves.
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Re: Coyotes

Post by JEBar » Sat May 22, 2021 2:32 pm

the call in your link has a 4.5 out of a perfect 5.0 based on 2,473 ratings .... that speaks well in my book

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Post by MuddyWaters62 » Sat May 22, 2021 3:23 pm

Coyotes wise up pretty quick, so I would advise to get a caller that you can change sounds on quickly. We have a growing population of dogs here on the Red River. Not many still hunt them.
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Post by BigAl52 » Sat May 22, 2021 5:49 pm

Good luck keeping up with them Marine.
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Post by NHshtr » Sat May 22, 2021 8:07 pm

I've hunted coyotes out in the woods pretty successfully using an electronic call like that and found the rabbit in distress or lone coyote call pretty effective.
But it seems you have the perfect decoys that you can put out in a strong, secure cage big enough for the hens to get to the far end of. Put a couple in there and let them cluck. One of your thieves will come out and stand at the edge of the woods looking things over because of the cage, (they know there's something different) and you should be able to pop him before he makes a move.
Give the hens plenty of room to move inside the cage in the event the dog makes a run at them.
My guess is that there's more than one of them and they probably have pups to feed this time of year.
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Post by BrokenolMarine » Sat May 22, 2021 10:01 pm

We have at least a half dozen identified on the game came, one huge male, the rest we suspect are females due to build and the way they move. Slinky as opposed to the bold way the male moves. There could be a young male or two in the group, and the numbers could be much higher.

We have several hundred acres around us in pasture and woodland, at night there are coyote concerts back and forth from all around. This is the first time we have seen a daylight raid.
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Re: Coyotes

Post by Travlin » Sun May 23, 2021 8:50 pm

>22 Magnum hollow point.

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Re: Coyotes

Post by JEBar » Sun May 23, 2021 9:20 pm

we have relatives in Minnesota who put them down out to 40 - 50 yards with a well placed shot using a CCI 22LR Mini Mag

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Post by BrokenolMarine » Sun May 23, 2021 11:27 pm

JEBar wrote:
Sun May 23, 2021 9:20 pm
we have relatives in Minnesota who put them down out to 40 - 50 yards with a well placed shot using a CCI 22LR Mini Mag
I'm sure .22 will work at 50 yards but the shots she WAS planning were 75 to 100. If we get the call, we can set up the shots in the 50 to 60 yard rard.
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Re: Coyotes

Post by markiver54 » Mon May 24, 2021 11:59 am

Just curious...how does one dispose of a dead coyote, or do they eat their own?
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Post by BrokenolMarine » Mon May 24, 2021 4:45 pm

We will put it on a spike by the fence as a warning to other coyotes.... :twisted:

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Toss it in the woods, nothing lasts long. Too many scavangers. If we shoot a lot, and the numbers build up, we can use the bucket on the tractor to dig a nice hole.
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Post by Vaquero » Mon May 24, 2021 8:33 pm

I generally just leave them lay, sometimes they will eat their own. But as Clint Eastwood said"worms got to eat", that and the buzzards.

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Re: Coyotes

Post by BrokenolMarine » Mon May 24, 2021 11:46 pm

Vaquero wrote:
Mon May 24, 2021 8:33 pm
I generally just leave them lay, sometimes they will eat their own. But as Clint Eastwood said"worms got to eat", that and the buzzards.

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We would, but we cut and bale that pasture for hay. The bones would be all crunchy and stuff and the cow would give us stink eye. :P
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Re: Coyotes

Post by Vaquero » Tue May 25, 2021 7:46 am

BrokenolMarine wrote:
Mon May 24, 2021 11:46 pm
Vaquero wrote:
Mon May 24, 2021 8:33 pm
I generally just leave them lay, sometimes they will eat their own. But as Clint Eastwood said"worms got to eat", that and the buzzards.

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We would, but we cut and bale that pasture for hay. The bones would be all crunchy and stuff and the cow would give us stink eye. :P
Well in that case, I'd just drag 'em to the edge of the field then.

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Post by BrokenolMarine » Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:01 pm

The coyote call came today. Have to check the sights on the rifle we decide to use, then we will get to it. I'll keep you posted. I think I can snipe them from a hide off a rest. Miss T can certainly do a number on the population if they get called in.
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Post by markiver54 » Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:17 pm

BrokenolMarine wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:01 pm
The coyote call came today. Have to check the sights on the rifle we decide to use, then we will get to it. I'll keep you posted. I think I can snipe them from a hide off a rest. Miss T can certainly do a number on the population if they get called in.
Awesome, go for it and let us know!! 8-)
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Post by Florida_Cracker » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:55 pm

Don't shoot the messenger here (me), but the studies show that if you do shoot them enough - the females will have more pups and earlier in order to make up the gap. A new Alpha that is more aggressive may take over the area etc. National Deer Association (NDA, formerly QDMA) has a number of summarized studies. Florida Fish/Wildlife Conservation Committee state that shooting them does little and could make it worse. Georgia's current 10-yr. Deer Management Plan states that coyote control was considered in the plan, but not recommended because there was no evidence that trying to shoot your way out of the problem would work.

Now if you just like shooting varment - well that's a different reason.

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Post by BrokenolMarine » Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:53 pm

Florida_Cracker wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:55 pm
Don't shoot the messenger here (me), but the studies show that if you do shoot them enough - the females will have more pups and earlier in order to make up the gap. A new Alpha that is more aggressive may take over the area etc. National Deer Association (NDA, formerly QDMA) has a number of summarized studies. Florida Fish/Wildlife Conservation Committee state that shooting them does little and could make it worse. Georgia's current 10-yr. Deer Management Plan states that coyote control was considered in the plan, but not recommended because there was no evidence that trying to shoot your way out of the problem would work.

Now if you just like shooting varment - well that's a different reason.
We tried asking them NOT to steal the chickens.
They ignored us. ;)

If we only shoot the female that has been raiding the coop area, I'm good.
The others have been eating squirrels, bunnies, etc. We are good with that.
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Post by Dahliathemeh » Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:43 pm

Good luck! I'm sure when said coyote is done in Miss T will be sporting a new hat.
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Post by Redthies » Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:02 am

The biggest issue with hunting ‘yotes is that they adjust their breeding to pack pressure. When there is no pressure, they breed slowly. When you start shooting them, they breed like rabbits. My male Weimaraner was alerting on something in the lower field tonight, and momma thought it might be a cougar, so I loaded the .44 Carbine and went for a stroll. I found a lone coyote pup sound asleep on my pile of grass clippings. I walked up to 20 yards before he woke up an bolted into the brambles. We don’t have chickens out, so I gave him a pass. Some scumbag bought the property across the road from us and cut down every green thing on the place and turned it into a lunar landscape. All the deer, rabbits, ‘yotes etc have been displaced so I’m giving them all a bit of time to find a new home.

The coyote pup, Dexter having a sit down with a rabbit, and our new Weimaraner pup:
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