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Re: Bond Arms Factory Tour

Post by JEBar » Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:20 pm

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My experience didn’t get better so I just quit dealing with them.
now I reallllllly hate to hear that

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Re: Bond Arms Factory Tour

Post by Cowboy Gun Fan » Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:44 pm

That's a surprise to me. I wouldn't expect them to be as good as Henry, but I figured they would be close. They give off that image really.
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Re: Bond Arms Factory Tour

Post by BigAl52 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:15 pm

Did you establish any kind of a relationship with the tour guide? Might be worth a call back and let them know you were on a tour through there not long ago. You bought one of their guns because you liked what you saw and were given the impression that they would take care of there customers. Didnt think companies in Texas operated like that. Put them on a guilt trip. Maybe you will get a positive response.
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Re: Bond Arms Factory Tour

Post by JEBar » Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:51 pm

I considered doing just that .... in addition, I've had a long phone conversation with the owner and I considered calling him as well .... right now I believe that its best to get it back before rocking the boat too hard .... they are well aware that I help with 3 very different forums that have ongoing threads about their derringers ..... the fact is, their business is so strong they are months behind in filling existing orders .... with that being the case, they may not care ... its also a fact that they make very strong ones that shouldn't need much service after the sale

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Re: Bond Arms Factory Tour

Post by BigAl52 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:18 pm

Just because you have so much business you can ignore things that need attention isnt good for business in the long run. That kind of attitude will travel well. Right now I wouldnt buy one if I wanted one so bad I could taste it.
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Re: Bond Arms Factory Tour

Post by JEBar » Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:37 pm

Cowboy Gun Fan wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:44 pm
That's a surprise to me. I wouldn't expect them to be as good as Henry, but I figured they would be close. They give off that image really.
they most certainly do .... after our personal tour of their facility and meeting many of their workers, I was very high on their entire operation .... I'm still convinced that they make every effort to put out a top quality product


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My experience didn’t get better so I just quit dealing with them.
.... its very clear that I'm not the only one

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Post by JEBar » Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:55 pm

our Roughneck has now starting its second week back at the Bond factory in Granbury TX .... no word from them Roll Eyes :roll: , none anticipated

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Re: Bond Arms Factory Tour

Post by JEBar » Tue May 04, 2021 1:35 pm

just got a call from the fellow at Bond who repaired our Roughneck .... he said a spring had broken and a piece lodged in a place that it wouldn't allow the hammer to go forward .... he went on to say that all other parts are fine and nothing else needs to be fixed .... he said it will be shipped today "via FedEx, FedEx Priority Overnight" .... if it gets here tomorrow, it will have gotten there, been repaired, and returned in exactly 2 weeks .... I intend to think about it a while after it gets here and come up with an overall comment

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Re: Bond Arms Factory Tour

Post by BigAl52 » Tue May 04, 2021 8:31 pm

Well thats good news and I hope it returns like you anticipate
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Re: Bond Arms Factory Tour

Post by JEBar » Wed May 05, 2021 11:16 am

delivered as promised by FedEx .... per the enclosed note, the problem was a broken hammer spring .... it was well protected by packaging .... after this issue, I've decided to use Carlson's snap caps .... I figure that can't hurt .... observation : as mentioned in post #34, when we first purchased it, the trigger pull was rather heavy .... over time it smoothed out but in looking back, I now believe the OEM hammer spring wasn't right from the get-go .... as repaired, there is a significant improvement in the trigger pull and I'm looking forward to firing it ....
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Re: Bond Arms Factory Tour

Post by Cowboy Gun Fan » Wed May 05, 2021 11:45 am

Glad to see that you got it back in a reasonable amount of time. I almost mentioned the other day that a "Watching pot never boils", lol. What seem to be a while turned out pretty good.

I believe you are convinced and it may not matter anyway, but I wouldn't dry fire it anymore, lol.
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Re: Bond Arms Factory Tour

Post by JEBar » Wed May 05, 2021 12:25 pm

understood and agree, that's why I bought the snap caps .... the more I handle it, the more convinced I am that the OEM "Hammer Torsion Spring" was faulty to begin with .... my wife couldn't cock it using both thumbs nor could she pull the trigger .... now she can cock it with a single thumb and has no trouble pulling the trigger .... its trigger and cocking functions are both much smoother and do not require anywhere near as much effort .... I have a call into Bond to speak with the fellow who did the repair .... he's not there now, they are supposed to have him call me ....

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Re: Bond Arms Factory Tour

Post by GFK » Wed May 05, 2021 3:30 pm

Well, I guess anything can break. Glad you got your Bond! Seems to be built like a tank. Hope it perform well for years to come. For me, the heavy trigger pull is a downer on my Davis, and the wife does not like it. Being there is not a trigger guard, I can understand. But, the S&W M360 seems to work fine for her. It's about the same weight. In any case, I hope not to use either, except for practice.
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Re: Bond Arms Factory Tour

Post by JEBar » Wed May 05, 2021 4:49 pm

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For me, the heavy trigger pull is a downer on my Davis, and the wife does not like it. Being there is not a trigger guard, I can understand.
understood on the heavy trigger pull .... having no prior experience with a Bond derringer, I had no clue that the OEM trigger pull wasn't normal .... what I did figure out was using the notch sights was useless .... the heavy trigger pull ensured it being jerked off sight .... not that shouldn't be the case .... I hope to get out and fire a few rounds tomorrow and am sure it will make a difference

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Re: Bond Arms Factory Tour

Post by Ernie » Wed May 05, 2021 7:09 pm

Glad you got it back and that it functions better. I carry mine daily with 410 defensive rounds that demolishes clay targets sitting at 25 feet.

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Re: Bond Arms Factory Tour

Post by JEBar » Wed May 05, 2021 8:33 pm

Ernie wrote:
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410 defensive rounds that demolishes clay targets sitting at 25 feet.
most impressive .... when you fire those 410's how would you rate the felt recoil/muzzle jump :?:

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Re: Bond Arms Factory Tour

Post by JEBar » Wed May 05, 2021 9:02 pm

GFK wrote:
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Being there is not a trigger guard,
almost all models from Bond come with trigger guards that can be easily removed by removing one screw .... I removed ours and did find its easier to pull the trigger without the guard .... that said, I'm more comfortable with one so it has been reinstalled

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Re: Bond Arms Factory Tour

Post by GFK » Wed May 05, 2021 9:54 pm

JEBar wrote:
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GFK wrote:
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Being there is not a trigger guard,
almost all models from Bond come with trigger guards that can be easily removed by removing one screw .... I removed ours and did find its easier to pull the trigger without the guard .... that said, I'm more comfortable with one so it has been reinstalled
I can understand. I think that I would be more comfortable with the trigger guard also. Even though, the safety does provide some protection. Accidents do happen. It better to be safe than sorry. Yet, I do like my Davis. I thought about buying a Bond. But, went for a 5 shooter (M360) instead, a few more dollars. However, the wife finds it easy to shoot and handle. So, the range will be seeing more of us.
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Post by JEBar » Wed May 05, 2021 10:03 pm

my wife has a Smith Model 637 Model 637 Crimson Trace® Lasergrip® ===> https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/mo ... sku=163052 .... with her arthritis, I have to light load its 38's .... my hope is our Roughneck will like them as well

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Post by Cowboy Gun Fan » Wed May 05, 2021 11:10 pm

With my Rowdy, I don't even notice an issue with trigger pull. I'll have to pay more attention next time out. But if it's more than average, I'm not even realizing it. I really like the trigger guard as well. Another thing I liked about it in comparison to the Cobra that I considered.
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