NASCAR 2020

[Grunt67]

Blaney & Ford wins. I'm happy.

[BigAl52]

Rebel Flags here for sale https://stainlessbanners.com/collections/rebel-flag

[fortyshooter]

CBS News had reported on their Fbook page that it was a serpintine drive belt that was hanging but then they quickly took that report down.
Most mechanics would think nothing of a looped belt hanging off some hook. Plus the "news" wants to keep this story going.

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

Rebel Flags here for sale https://stainlessbanners.com/collections/rebel-flag

Better hurry. I believe they will be running out of them soon.

[Grunt67]

CBS News had reported on their Fbook page that it was a serpintine drive belt that was hanging but then they quickly took that report down.
Most mechanics would think nothing of a looped belt hanging off some hook. Plus the "news" wants to keep this story going.

I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I know a noose from
a serpentine belt.

[Vaquero]

I hear ya Grunt

RP

[GeoBoy]

Rebel Flags here for sale https://stainlessbanners.com/collections/rebel-flag

Move on, there is no reason for the waving of the Confederate flag, the war is long over and there is no place for it.

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

Many wars are long over.

[BigAl52]

I see no reason why it cant be flown as long as its below old glory. It harms no one.

[CT_Shooter]

I see no reason why it cant be flown as long as its below old glory. It harms no one.

"The Confederate battle flag has all too often been co-opted by violent extremist and racist groups whose divisive beliefs have no place in our Corps. Our history as a nation, and events like the violence in Charlottesville in 2017, highlight the divisiveness the use of the Confederate battle flag has had on our society."

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/y ... allations/

THIS MARADMIN DIRECTS MARINE CORPS COMMANDERS TO IDENTIFY, AND REMOVE THE DISPLAY OF THE CONFEDERATE BATTLE FLAG OR ITS DEPICTION WITHIN WORK PLACES, COMMON-ACCESS AREAS, AND PUBLIC AREAS ON THEIR INSTALLATIONS.

https://www.marines.mil/News/Messages/M ... ttle-flag/

Today, I directed my staff to begin crafting an order that would prohibit the Confederate battle flag from all public spaces and work areas aboard Navy installations, ships, aircraft and submarines....
The order is meant to ensure unit cohesion, preserve good order and discipline, and uphold the Navy's core values of honor, courage and commitment.

https://twitter.com/USNavyCNO/status/12 ... 2459010049

https://www.military.com/daily-news/202 ... g-ban.html

[Grunt67]

The Confederate flag & the Confederacy are a part of Southern
history. It has nothing to do with racism. Removing flags, statues, busts, movie cars, pancake syrup labels, are ridiculous,
and solves nothing. I intent on getting one & displaying it.
That's my story & I'm sticking to it.

[CT_Shooter]

The Confederate flag & the Confederacy are a part of Southern history. It has nothing to do with racism.

The confederate flag does represent southern heritage to many Americans, but it also represents white supremacy to a significant and growing number of others.

Time and events change perceptions. Consider that the Swastika also had a benign meaning before Hitler adopted it, but the world still views it as a symbol of facism.

[The Swastika] was used by American military units during World War One and it could be seen on RAF planes as late as 1939. Most of these benign uses came to a halt in the 1930s as the Nazis rose to power in Germany.

[cooperhawk]

Actually it's a free speech issue. BLM and the Gays have their flags and display them all the time.

[markiver54]

Actually it's a free speech issue. BLM and the Gays have their flags and display them all the time.

Very true Coop. There are some that are not quite ready, ( and maybe never will ) to accept LGBTQ. however, there is a new couple that just moved into our neighborhood and have a tall flag pole with a big rainbow flag at the top.
No Old Glory at all.
Anyway, abiding by forum rules, That's all I have to say. Just food for thought.

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

Many seem to be jumping on one side, but how about the other side?

When Lincoln invaded Virginia, soldiers fought and died defending their homeland. Most of them were not slave owners. Many were not even pro-slavery. We have a saying on a Civil War site I belong to. "No man fought so another man could keep slaves".

Then the horrors of Sherman, Sheridan and Hunter. Inflicting hardship and worse on innocent citizens, many who were anti-slavery to boot. Many fought and died trying to save their homeland from these villains.

This, is the other side of the Flag. Honoring and remembering the ones who died for their service and the Southern Pride that goes along with it.

[Vaquero]

Actually it's a free speech issue. BLM and the Gays have their flags and display them all the time.

Exactly, and the reason Mine will NEVER come down.
Fact: None of my father's family was even in the USA at the time of the War.
My mother's family was in KY, which from my understanding was a fairly neutral state.
I have always just thought it was a COOL looking flag.

RP

[Vaquero]

The meaning behind it, for those that are clueless.

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[Vaquero]

Actually it's a free speech issue. BLM and the Gays have their flags and display them all the time.

Very true Coop. There are some that are not quite ready, ( and maybe never will ) to accept LGBTQ. however, there is a new couple that just moved into our neighborhood and have a tall flag pole with a big rainbow flag at the top.
No Old Glory at all.
Anyway, abiding by forum rules, That's all I have to say. Just food for thought.

Well according to the Bible it's wrong.
LGBT to me.

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RP

[CT_Shooter]

The meaning behind it, for those that are clueless.

A widely circulated image on social media makes the claim that the Confederate battle flag’s colors have religious significance. This is false.

The posts say: “The red represents the blood of Christ. The white border represents the protection of God. The blue ‘X’ represents the Christian cross of Saint Andrew, the first disciple of Christ Jesus and patron Saint of Scotland. The 13 stars represent the 13 Southern states of succession.”

Ted Kaye, a vexillologist (flag expert) with the Portland Flag Association and Secretary of the North American Vexillological Association, told Reuters this description was “mostly inaccurate”.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN23P2U2

[Vaquero]

The meaning behind it, for those that are clueless.

A widely circulated image on social media makes the claim that the Confederate battle flag’s colors have religious significance. This is false.

The posts say: “The red represents the blood of Christ. The white border represents the protection of God. The blue ‘X’ represents the Christian cross of Saint Andrew, the first disciple of Christ Jesus and patron Saint of Scotland. The 13 stars represent the 13 Southern states of succession.”

Ted Kaye, a vexillologist (flag expert) with the Portland Flag Association and Secretary of the North American Vexillological Association, told Reuters this description was “mostly inaccurate”.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN23P2U2

Well the first paragraph states:The Confederate flag was flown by the breakaway southern states, which defended slavery, in the 1861-65 American Civil War.

For the 1,000,000,000th time the WAR was not about Slavery.

RP