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Hellcat vs. J-frame for CCW

Post by Hrfunk » Wed May 27, 2020 10:44 am

Here's a comparison between he tried and true and the new kid on the block. Let me know your thoughts!

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Re: Hellcat vs. J-frame for CCW

Post by GunnyGene » Wed May 27, 2020 11:43 am

Too much concern with size and weight. Capacity wins in this comparison.
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Re: Hellcat vs. J-frame for CCW

Post by JEBar » Wed May 27, 2020 1:04 pm

just curious .... given equal circumstances, which one are you the most accurate with (specially on the first shot) .. :?:

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Re: Hellcat vs. J-frame for CCW

Post by Hrfunk » Wed May 27, 2020 1:48 pm

JEBar wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 1:04 pm
just curious .... given equal circumstances, which one are you the most accurate with (specially on the first shot) .. :?:
As much as I hate to admit it, I think that would be the Hellcat. The trigger and sights on that little pistol make a big difference. The D/A pull on the 342 is smooth, but long and somewhat heavy, and the sights are not nearly as visible.

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Post by markiver54 » Wed May 27, 2020 2:00 pm

I have been very interested in the Hellcat ever since I first became aware of it.
Not much thicker than my XDS, and a significant increase in capacity. If I could step back to pre-purchase of my XDS and the Hellcat was available; would have definitely gone with the Cat!!
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Post by GunnyGene » Wed May 27, 2020 2:26 pm

markiver54 wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:00 pm
I have been very interested in the Hellcat ever since I first became aware of it.
Not much thicker than my XDS, and a significant increase in capacity. If I could step back to pre-purchase of my XDS and the Hellcat was available; would have definitely gone with the Cat!!
Likewise, but haven't been able to find one locally, and I don't buy guns without at least handling them, and preferably shooting a few rounds first. I'll spring the $5 or so for a test drive.
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Re: Hellcat vs. J-frame for CCW

Post by JEBar » Wed May 27, 2020 2:32 pm

Hrfunk wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 1:48 pm
As much as I hate to admit it, I think that would be the Hellcat. The trigger and sights on that little pistol make a big difference. The D/A pull on the 342 is smooth, but long and somewhat heavy, and the sights are not nearly as visible.

Howard
makes sense .... opinion appreciated

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Re: Hellcat vs. J-frame for CCW

Post by markiver54 » Wed May 27, 2020 3:31 pm

GunnyGene wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:26 pm
markiver54 wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:00 pm
I have been very interested in the Hellcat ever since I first became aware of it.
Not much thicker than my XDS, and a significant increase in capacity. If I could step back to pre-purchase of my XDS and the Hellcat was available; would have definitely gone with the Cat!!
Likewise, but haven't been able to find one locally, and I don't buy guns without at least handling them, and preferably shooting a few rounds first. I'll spring the $5 or so for a test drive.
Same here Gunny! Like to at least handle, if not shoot first. Have not had the chance yet to look very extensively, locally. Hope when time allows, I can find one.
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Re: Hellcat vs. J-frame for CCW

Post by GunnyGene » Wed May 27, 2020 4:09 pm

markiver54 wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 3:31 pm
GunnyGene wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:26 pm
markiver54 wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:00 pm
I have been very interested in the Hellcat ever since I first became aware of it.
Not much thicker than my XDS, and a significant increase in capacity. If I could step back to pre-purchase of my XDS and the Hellcat was available; would have definitely gone with the Cat!!
Likewise, but haven't been able to find one locally, and I don't buy guns without at least handling them, and preferably shooting a few rounds first. I'll spring the $5 or so for a test drive.
Same here Gunny! Like to at least handle, if not shoot first. Have not had the chance yet to look very extensively, locally. Hope when time allows, I can find one.
I missed one at the Academy in Tupelo by about 2 weeks. Counter guy said they were going to order a couple more next month. Priced at $503, which seems a little steep to me. Then there's 7% tax and NCIS fee of $25 which would put it at $563 out the door. I'll wait till our tax holiday rolls around in late Aug. before buying anyway.
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Post by markiver54 » Wed May 27, 2020 4:48 pm

We have yet to get up to our summer cabin because of the extended tax deadline. ( wifes' an accountant ). However, when we do, the LGS up there is amazing, and I don't doubt that he will have one. Have bought most of my guns there and his prices can't be beat. He also stocks more Henrys than anywhere I've ever seen. ( Prices Creek General Store ) in Burnsville NC.
He's always well below MSRP, and sometimes even less for cash.
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Post by BigAl52 » Wed May 27, 2020 4:56 pm

Ive owned a couple Springfield Armory. I just dont shoot them well and would not buy another one. Not saying there no good just sayin they dont work for me.
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Post by Jerrysea » Wed May 27, 2020 5:04 pm

I had a S & W chief .38 inch. Sold it. Have a Sig 365 w safety. Same kind of gun as the hellcat. Size wise and capacity wise. 1 round difference
The sig 365 is easier to carry, shoots better has a little more power then the .38.. More capacity.
This .38 was my off duty gun for many years. It was carried on hip iswb. osw. shoulder holster and in ankle holster depending on where I was going and how I was dressed. Never pocket carried.
I would have much rather had a sig p365, Sig 320 sub compact, sig p938 or a hellcat. They of course were not available at that time.
When we went to semi- Auto, it was a sig 226 in 9mm. I just carried that in a pancake owb holster as off duty. Until I retired.
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Sold the .38 2 or 3 years ago to fund buying another semi.

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Re: Hellcat vs. J-frame for CCW

Post by GunnyGene » Wed May 27, 2020 5:35 pm

BigAl52 wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 4:56 pm
Ive owned a couple Springfield Armory. I just dont shoot them well and would not buy another one. Not saying there no good just sayin they dont work for me.
That's exactly why I prefer to test drive before buying. What works for one, often doesn't work for another. Kinda like underwear - but the stores won't let you test drive underwear. ;)
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Post by BigAl52 » Wed May 27, 2020 5:44 pm

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Post by BrokenolMarine » Wed May 27, 2020 8:11 pm

I agree that I like to shoot before buying. But, I was lucky enough to have had a long relationship with two gunshops in the area. If I was interested in a used gun. I could shoot it. A new gun, they would stand behind the accuracy. Twice, in thirty years, I took guns back with a pad of failed test targets. Both times they replaced the guns, and made the manufacturer replace them.

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Post by North Country Gal » Wed May 27, 2020 8:32 pm

Although I very rarely carry and, when I do, it as a woods carry for four legged problems, I've always found the subject interesting. That, and I've always had fascination with small handguns, anyway. What you carry, of course, is a very personal and subjective decision. To be honest, as much as I love and shoot revolvers, I find that I can shoot a small semi-auto better than a small revolver and often much better. My targets don't lie. Each to their own, as always.

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Post by Hrfunk » Wed May 27, 2020 9:09 pm

Will do. I mostly work with Cal, if you know him. He's a good guy and the program they have for people like me is quite beneficial for them and me.

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Post by BrokenolMarine » Thu May 28, 2020 7:44 am

I have both semi autos and revolvers for edc, and depending on the weather, I will carry a SA. But when weather calls for small and light, the J frame has filled the bill. Always been happy with it. A couple speed strips in an off side pocket... ;)
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Re: Hellcat vs. J-frame for CCW

Post by Hrfunk » Thu May 28, 2020 7:58 am

BrokenolMarine wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 7:44 am
I have both semi autos and revolvers for edc, and depending on the weather, I will carry a SA. But when weather calls for small and light, the J frame has filled the bill. Always been happy with it. A couple speed strips in an off side pocket... ;)
I still have a lot of love for my J-frames, but for off-duty EDC, the Hellcat is winning me over.

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Re: Hellcat vs. J-frame for CCW

Post by BrokenolMarine » Thu May 28, 2020 8:15 am

Hrfunk wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 7:58 am
BrokenolMarine wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 7:44 am
I have both semi autos and revolvers for edc, and depending on the weather, I will carry a SA. But when weather calls for small and light, the J frame has filled the bill. Always been happy with it. A couple speed strips in an off side pocket... ;)
I still have a lot of love for my J-frames, but for off-duty EDC, the Hellcat is winning me over.

Howard
Once we get settled in this new farm, and I take care of all the gotta haves...
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... Then add a .308 to the stable for the feral piggies... :twisted:
I might just take a look at the hellcat.
However, my Kimber Tactical Ultra II...
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Ah... Found it...

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