Big Boy peep sight

[Ozziemick]

Hi everyone, question from down in Australia. Just wondering if anyone could tell me if Henry rifles are drilled and tapped for receiver sights such as Williams and Lyman? I’m not interested in tang mounted sights. I know there are a lot of Skinners mounted on Henry’s, but I’d rather the Williams type for the adjustments needed for some competition lever action silhouette shooting. Cheers.

[leverjc]

I have Williams FP"s on my steel BB and on my Frontier. The BB is does not have the side mount holes like a Marlin does so I went with the top mount one that fits the Marlin 94 but you do have some over hang on the hammer of the BB as the mount holes are farther back on the Henry. I can still cock the hammer with my thumb but it is tight. Some people put on a hammer extension.

The one on my 24" Frontier is the one that fits the slots for 22's. This Williams sight sits high so you will need about 3/4" front sight. I installed a .6 Skinner blade on mine and it still shoots high with the sight bottomed out. The .75 blade is in the mail so I do not know how much I will file down but will try and remember to post once I get it dialed in.

Williams seem to be the most used sight where I compete.

[Ojaileveraction]

While the Williams 336 will go on the Steel Big Boys the sights have to be modified some to fit the brass receiver modles.

[Mistered]

the sights have to be modified some to fit the brass receiver models.

It's not a physical modification but just a matter of reversing the windage slider and mounting the sight in reverse.

Otherwise the sight can be mounted the way it is but it will hang off the rear of the receiver about a 1/2".

This is my BBB with the sight mounted in reverse.

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[Ojaileveraction]

No really it is a physical modification.
For the BBB the Williams 336 elevator has to be thinned down a few tenths of an inch. I used a file. Anything beyond hand tools and I'm out.
Ed I believe writing about the WGRS, witch is not a practical sight for Silhouette.

the sights have to be modified some to fit the brass receiver models.

It's not a physical modification but just a matter of reversing the windage slider and mounting the sight in reverse.

Otherwise the sight can be mounted the way it is but it will hang off the rear of the receiver about a 1/2".

See my previous posts and pictures about this.

[Mistered]

Ed I believe writing about the WGRS

This is correct.

The FP-336 elevator does have to be thinned on the inside to fit the BBB but why would the WGRS not be 'practical' for silhouette?

You would still be looking through the same peep aperture regardless of sight model.

[Ozziemick]

So what front post would you need with that Williams peep? Only other thing I was thinking about is one of the side mounted peeps, with the adjustable knobs so I could move the sight up and down for the different distances and have good repeatability.

[Ojaileveraction]

So what front post would you need with that Williams peep? Only other thing I was thinking about is one of the side mounted peeps, with the adjustable knobs so I could move the sight up and down for the different distances and have good repeatability.

The Williams 336 mounts on the top in the existing holes in the reciever of a Big Boy.
There is nothing to mount a sight on the side of the receiver like a Winchester.
Don't know what caliber your shooting and you may want to wait and see how your rifle shoots, but, most seem to need a taller front sight.
I personally like the Marbels 1/16 bead sights

[Mistered]

with the adjustable knobs so I could move the sight up and down

This is referrefd to as the 'TK' style meaning ''thumb knob' - and I don't know if the 336 is available in this style.

Check out Williams' website for specifics.

[Ojaileveraction]

As Ed says you will need a FP/tk, Fool Proof/Target Knob modle.
It always nice to add a gig lock screw knob
https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tool ... yAsscmbpbj
And depedingnon the rifle cartridge comb an extended elevator target screw may be needed.

[Ozziemick]

FPTK would be the go, for sure. But can one be mounted to a Big Boy without having to get new holes tapped?

[leverjc]

The front sight I put on my .357 BB was a Skinner .75" along with a Williams FP and I think I filled about .10" off the front sight to get it close to zero.

[Ojaileveraction]

The Williams 336 mounts on the top in the existing holes in the reciever of a Big Boy.

[Mistered]

and I don't know if the 336 is available in this style.

It is in fact, is available in the 336 model.

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Always wanted to try a TK style but being a cheapskate I just have always bought used, basic set screw style for my rifles! Hey they work just as well for less than half the price!

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[Ojaileveraction]

and I don't know if the 336 is available in this style.

It is in fact, is available in the 336 model.

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Always wanted to try a TK style but being a cheapskate I just have always bought used, basic set screw style for my rifles! Hey they work just as well for less than half the price!


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If you are not needing to constantly change site settings, the target knobs are intrusive.
A a matter of fact I've come to consider the windage target knob superfluous.
I never change the windage once I have a setting. As a matter of fact Williams says that the Windage Locking Screw be tight for every shot.
Not so the Elevation Locking Screw.

[Mistered]

the target knobs are intrusive.

Kinda wondered about this as well.

Windage change is typically unnecessary but elevation sometimes requires minor changes and I can deal with the set screws for that.

OK - No TK sights for me - ever!

[Ozziemick]

Other option might have to be a skinner, and do away with the adjustments. If I installed a dovetail skinner, instead of the receiver mounted, would the original front post be at the correct height?

[Mistered]

would the original front post be at the correct height?

This can almost never be answered by simply asking.

One has to typically perform a sight height calculation for the particular rifle the front sight is being mounted on and then actual shooting to confirm it.

What might be right for one person shooting the rifle may be different for another due to differences in holding the rifle, LOP & other considerations.

[Ozziemick]

the sights have to be modified some to fit the brass receiver models.

It's not a physical modification but just a matter of reversing the windage slider and mounting the sight in reverse.

Otherwise the sight can be mounted the way it is but it will hang off the rear of the receiver about a 1/2".

This is my BBB with the sight mounted in reverse.

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What did you use for your front sight with this rear peep set up?

[Mistered]

The original gold bead front that came with my Henry was fine and I'll measure it when I get home later!

My original Henry sight is .390 however I remember wanting a higher profile on the rear peep so I swapped it out for a .470 blade from a Winchester I had which for a 50 yard '6 O'Clock' sight picture puts my rear elevation ramp about two notches high from the centerline mark on the sight base.

Basically just right.