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Longer Barrels

Post by Ojaileveraction » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:36 pm

I am a big fan of 22 to 26 inch barrels on lever guns.
HRA responded to Lever action silhouette shooters with their 24" Frontier 22lr. In a market wear there were virtually no new production rifles., Henry 22lrs are now well represented at matches.
Not so much for center fire rifles. In my opinion it's the lack of anything with a bar longer than 20 inches.
With only iron sights being allowed, sight radius is a major consideration in the sport.

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Re: Longer Barrels

Post by Mgderf » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:28 pm

Anything longer than 20", while nice for reaching out there, is much more cumbersome to drag through the woods for the average size hunter.
I am 6', and I can hold a 20" barrel at arms length and pointed at the ground, but there's not a lot of clearance left.

If I had a 24" barrel at arms length it would likely touch the muzzle to the ground.

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Re: Longer Barrels

Post by Travlin » Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:39 pm

Sometimes we forget that the .22 long rifle cartridge is made to burn all of the powder in a 16 inch barrel.

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Post by Vaquero » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:21 pm

I have a few long barreled lever guns.
'92 Winchester 25-20 24" oct.
'92 Marlin 32 colt 24" oct.
'92 clone"Rossi" 357 24" oct.
Marlin 444 22" round

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Re: Longer Barrels

Post by Vaquero » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:23 pm

Travlin wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:39 pm
Sometimes we forget that the .22 long rifle cartridge is made to burn all of the powder in a 16 inch barrel.
I did not know that.
Why so many long barreled 22 then??

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Post by Ojaileveraction » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:49 am

Is all about Sight Radius.
Vaquero wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:23 pm
Travlin wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:39 pm
Sometimes we forget that the .22 long rifle cartridge is made to burn all of the powder in a 16 inch barrel.
I did not know that.
Why so many long barreled 22 then??

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Post by Mags » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:15 am

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I also prefer longer barrels. To me the carbine barrel length 'looks' too short.
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Re: Longer Barrels

Post by Vaquero » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:48 am

Oh, I like the carbines also, especially for woods walking.
One of the reasons I had one of the 35's cut down, and why I bought the 444 P. :o
But those long octagon barrels are just plain sexy. :D

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Post by Mags » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:02 pm

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Especially with a shiny brass receiver and other shiny brass parts!
Vaquero wrote:
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... But those long octagon barrels are just plain sexy. :D

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Post by Mistered » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:10 pm

But those long octagon barrels are just plain sexy.
Why yes they are!
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Post by Vaquero » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:15 pm

Nice. Whatcha got the Ed?

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Post by Mistered » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:19 pm

Left is a 1966 100 Year commemorative and on the right is an 1899 "Klondike' Sporting Rifle in .30-30.

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Post by JEBar » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:24 pm

for having to walk very far to a hunting spot or hunting while walking through an area, I prefer light weight carbines .... when hunting from an easy to get to stand, I prefer a heavier rifle with a longer barrel ....

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Post by Koyote » Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:52 am

Although not a Henry, my Winnie 1894 Sportin' Rifle has a 24" Octagon Barrel. Definitely has that classic look. I realize they are a bit heavier, but if you can't carry one, you should start doin' more pushups/pullups, anything to get your biceps into shape.
I am reminded of the football coach who was asked why he made his running back carry the football 30-35X/game. He said, the football is not all that heavy!!!

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Post by Ojaileveraction » Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:08 pm

I like long barrels. Make me think of this every time.
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Post by Mistered » Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:18 pm

my Winnie 1894 Sportin' Rifle
What year is your Winchester and caliber?

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Re: Longer Barrels

Post by Cofisher » Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:26 pm

So...are you saying size DOES matter?
Remember, it's not how many guns you have. It's how many bullets you have.

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Post by Ojaileveraction » Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:33 pm

Of course, just ask anyone with a long one.
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So...are you saying size DOES matter?

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Post by Vaquero » Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:58 pm

:o :lol: :lol:

Yeah what he said ;)

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Re: Longer Barrels

Post by GunnyGene » Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:24 pm

As long as force exerted by the pressure in the barrel exceeds the frictional resistance of the bullet/barrel, the bullet will continue to accelerate. Gas pressure drops off as enclosed volume increases and cools, plus any loss due to leaks (cylinder/barrel gap in wheel guns for example) or diversion of gas for purposes other than pushing the bullet. At what length of bullet travel friction overcomes gas pressure can vary considerably between barrels and individual rounds in the same barrel, and even with atmospheric conditions at the time of the shot. This is all basic internal ballistics, albeit some factors are less influential than others. :)

Sniper101 goes into some detail about what happens inside the barrel, as well as other useful info.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... vDCIcEPxUn
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