45 lc Henry 300 xtp mag question

[wewcos]

hello ladies and gentlemen,
thanks for the add here! i have picked myself up a 45 lc big boy brass and looking for load data on hornady xtp mags. my lyman has 0 data on the 300 gn jacketed and didnt find much info with google. i made a dummy round and it seats at 1.625 and works fine in the rifle, no closing or feeding issues. would anyone have any books with load data for this bullet? i have on hand , 231, 296, unique, bullseye, h110 , 3031 and a slew of other powders. again, thanks for the add and any info !

[wewcos]

CT_shooter, thank you so very very much for that info! i will make up a couple rounds and see how they do. i was questioning the .452 size in jackated bullets in the henry as well. only info i had seen online was someone had posted a reply from henry about not going over 270 gn due to coal . ill find out later this morning if it still seats to cannulure with the charge. thanks so much brother!

[CT_Shooter]

I'm sorry, Wewcos. I made a mistake. The 300 XTP Mag bullet is not listed for 45LC. It is for the 450 Bushmaster, which sadly follows the one page devoted to the 45 LC. The bullets Hornady lists for 45LC are the 225 grain FTX (with a special case trim length of 1.215) and the 255 grain FP Cowboy lead bullet. Please do not use the data I provided (I will delete it immediately).

CT_shooter, thank you so very very much for that info! i will make up a couple rounds and see how they do. i was questioning the .452 size in jackated bullets in the henry as well. only info i had seen online was someone had posted a reply from henry about not going over 270 gn due to coal . ill find out later this morning if it still seats to cannulure with the charge. thanks so much brother!

[wewcos]

No problem at all. Thanks again!

[BigAl52]

I have this bullet at home for my 45 colt. I dont use it very often. But I have shot some with Unique. I also have the hornady manual I can post the loads later tonight if you wish

[CT_Shooter]

I went back to the Hornady 9th book and located the 300 grain XTP MAG referenced there for the 45 Colt Blackhawk Handgun (or T/C Handgun), but it specified that it could also be shot from Marlin 1894S and Winchester Model 94 rifles, as well. Your Henry should be just fine, too. It only listed one of the powders you mentioned, Win 296. Starting at 17.9 (1050 fps) and max at 21.0 (1300 fps). The C.O.L. is 1.655".

i have picked myself up a 45 lc big boy brass and looking for load data on hornady xtp mags. my lyman has 0 data on the 300 gn jacketed and didnt find much info with google. i made a dummy round and it seats at 1.625 and works fine in the rifle, no closing or feeding issues. would anyone have any books with load data for this bullet? i have on hand , 231, 296, unique, bullseye, h110 , 3031 and a slew of other powders. again, thanks for the add and any info !

I have this bullet at home for my 45 colt. I dont use it very often. But I have shot some with Unique. I also have the hornady manual I can post the loads later tonight if you wish

[wingnut]

Personally, I stick with the .451" XTP. I had over-pressures with Sierra .4515's. YMMY.

Here are some links to look at (all cautions apply):

https://www.shootersforum.com/handgun-c ... n-xtp.html

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthrea ... loads_with_

https://rugerforum.net/reloading/122773 ... -colt.html

https://loaddata.com/Cartridge/45-Colt- ... llets/6705

Stay safe.

[BigAl52]

Looks like CT has helped out here with his book Im not sure which edition I have but I will look tonight. I have had great luck with HS-6 and I would not be scared to try 2400 either.

[wewcos]

Thanks so much guys ! Def. Not a lot of data on it which usually means something lol. Im NOT a risk taker when it comes to reloading but have had henry tell me the big boys will handle the +p and buffalo bore loads but woild NOT go beyond that ( no surprise there for any manufacturer) . I will try 2 or 3 with the 296 and report back saturday with findings. I loaded up some hms 250 leads over 8.5 gn of unique and they did ok at 50 yards at 1.60 . I just literally couldnt see the 100 yd bull at 50 yds or focus on my front post. Ill be 51 sept 30th and looks like gonna have to scope it and everything i own for that matter

[Greyhawk]

hello ladies and gentlemen,
thanks for the add here! i have picked myself up a 45 lc big boy brass and looking for load data on hornady xtp mags. my lyman has 0 data on the 300 gn jacketed and didnt find much info with google. i made a dummy round and it seats at 1.625 and works fine in the rifle, no closing or feeding issues. would anyone have any books with load data for this bullet? i have on hand , 231, 296, unique, bullseye, h110 , 3031 and a slew of other powders. again, thanks for the add and any info !

I'm very interested to learn what you find out. My go to 45 colt load is with a 250 grain XTP over either 16 grains of 2400 for plinking or 20 grains of 2400 for hunting, but my dad gave me a box of 300 grain XTP mags for Christmas. I wasn't sure if the 1.655 COL would cycle in the Henry's and I haven't got a chance to try it out yet. Keep us posted!

[wewcos]

Greyhawk , i made a dummy round on the xtp mag 300 gn and to cannulure i get 1.625. I havent loaded any powder yet but at 1.625 it feeds and cycles no issue whatsoever.

[wewcos]

Ok, so made a couple more dummies at 1.655. DONT TRY IT IN YOUR HENRY. Lol. They will jamb up. Not short enough to clear from magazine and come up into chamber. So we're at least that far into the process :p

[wewcos]

1.642 is the farthest out i can seat and crimp and feed without hiccup. Not sure im brave enough to try it and leave the range with a ruined henry or worse. What you guys thoughts?

[wewcos]

Ok, so anyways, its just not in the cards for our henrys and 300 gn xtp mags. Even with a good solid crimp at 1.642 , after chambering 2 or 3 times, bullet is getting pushed back to 1.634 . Im just not the risk taker. Sorry guys for all the posts. Thank you to everyone who replied!

[Mags]

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Don't fret about the number of posts. It was very good of you to share your thoughts, actions and findings with the rest of us. Thank you!

Ok, so anyways, its just not in the cards for our henrys and 300 gn xtp mags. Even with a good solid crimp at 1.642 , after chambering 2 or 3 times, bullet is getting pushed back to 1.634 . Im just not the risk taker. Sorry guys for all the posts. Thank you to everyone who replied!

[Greyhawk]

Ok, so anyways, its just not in the cards for our henrys and 300 gn xtp mags. Even with a good solid crimp at 1.642 , after chambering 2 or 3 times, bullet is getting pushed back to 1.634 . Im just not the risk taker. Sorry guys for all the posts. Thank you to everyone who replied!

Great conversation! OK.... Just to throw a monkeywrench into the mix... Hornady 10th addition on page 955 lists 45 Colt Ruger only loads. In their category for 300 grain bullets they list the 300 grain XTP mag at a COL of 1.655 (we all agree that this wont work in the Henry without altering the firearm) BUT, the regular 300 grain XTP is listed at a COL of 1.58, so this may be an option for those of us who are interested in the 300 grain.
And I did find the 300 grain XTP's (not mag) on the Cabela's website today. Just some food for thought!

[wewcos]

Greyhawk , my plan is to get some of the regular xtp and check those for sure. It was fun to check it out for sure although a tad disappointed. I should have checked more before i got the xtp mags, now i need a another rifle to to use up 50 bullets ,) picking up a scope for it tomorrow and still absolutely love the henry. It will take down anything i ever plan on hunting with it at 50 yards and probably even 100. So either a new rifle or a matching pistol like i have for my 44 mag bb if i ever figure out how to upload some photos, i made 3 display cases that didnt turn out half bad at all for all 3 henrys . Made out of oak, couldnt find walnut anywhere around locally. I will keep this post updated when i pickup those reg xtp 300's. I have an old hornady manual somewhere but after moving almost a yr ago i cant find anything but the lyman 50th i bought.

[BigAl52]

I have a 7th edition Hornady manual that I took pictures of that 300 gr page. I can post that pic should you ever decide you would like to go ahead with that project

[Greyhawk]

Greyhawk , my plan is to get some of the regular xtp and check those for sure. It was fun to check it out for sure although a tad disappointed. I should have checked more before i got the xtp mags, now i need a another rifle to to use up 50 bullets ,) picking up a scope for it tomorrow and still absolutely love the henry. It will take down anything i ever plan on hunting with it at 50 yards and probably even 100. So either a new rifle or a matching pistol like i have for my 44 mag bb if i ever figure out how to upload some photos, i made 3 display cases that didnt turn out half bad at all for all 3 henrys . Made out of oak, couldnt find walnut anywhere around locally. I will keep this post updated when i pickup those reg xtp 300's. I have an old hornady manual somewhere but after moving almost a yr ago i cant find anything but the lyman 50th i bought.

The buck in my avatar was taken with my Henry .45 colt and 250 grain lead bullet. I was using Buffalo Bore 250 grain Deer Grenades. I took two deer that year with the Henry .45 colt (one while wearing only my long johns!) The one in the avatar was about 30 yards away and the long john deer was about 80 yards away, neither deer went more than 100 feet before dying. Last year I hunted with my 45-70 and 300 grain handloads, I also shot two deer that year and the 300 grainers were impressive to say the least. Once again neither deer went more than 100 feet. Here are some range pictures from out at the range the other day. My youngest daughter is going to hunt with my Henry .45 Colt this year so I made sure things are set up for her. these pictures were groups with 19 grains of 2400 under 250 grain XTP.