My New Henry Big Boy 45 Colt

[Lead Head]

I recently received my new Henry Big Boy in 45 Colt caliber. It is a real beauty to look at.

I am having what I think is a problem. When loading the magazine tube, and especially when I push the inner tube down to lock it in place, the lever pops part way open. Is this a common thing, or is it a problem.

Second concern I have with the rifle is it is extremely fussy about the ammo it will shoot accurately and it doesn't seem to be consistent from one time to the next. I have noticed the rifle is very sensitive to any variation of pressure on the forearm making it very difficult to shoot accurately.

I welcome any suggestions other members may have.

[ESquared]

Welcome again, Lead Head!

What you're describing with the lever-popping was an issue a few years ago, but, as far as I know, the problem has been engineered of more recent production. Bottom line, it shouldn't be happening.

Your post says it's "new," so assume it's fairly recent production? If you send Henry an email with the S/N, they can verify its production date.

The other common thing to look at is how many rounds you're trying to load. The manual says 10 (if it's the full-sized Big Boy, not the carbine model), so make sure you're not squeezing in 11 rounds just because it looks like the last one will "fit." If 10 is all oyou're trying to load, then contacting Henry may be your next step.

As far as ammo and accuracy, there's no question rifles (and handguns) seem to prefer different types of ammo, so we'll need to understand more about what you're using, from what distance(s), with what sight set-up, etc. With factory ammo, it's often just trial and error to get to the right match for your firearm.

HOpe that helps; keep us posted and shoot back any questions/comments. Others may chime in with thoughts as well!

[Lead Head]

ESquared,

I have been loading only five rounds at a time for load testing.

All my shooting with this rifle so far has been at fifty yards, off a bench with bags. The rifle is scoped.

I have been working with SNS 250gr. RNFP bullets that measure very close to .453" diameter and Missouri 250gr. RNFP that measures closer to .4524" in diameter. The bore slugs at .452" groove diameter. I have used Winchester 231 and Unique for the faster end of the burn rate and Accurate no. 5 & Accurate no. 7 for the slower side. Loading from starting loads in the manuals to suggested maximum with all four powders, ten rounds of each powder charge.

All the targets look more like some one shot at it with "OO" buck shot. I tried to shake powder to the rear, thinking I may be having a "Powder Position Sensitivity Problem, Still crap for groups.

I have run onto only one factory ammunition that shoots great five shot groups that are one ragged hole, so the gun can shoot well, but so far it still hates lead. That ammo in Federal 225 gr. RNFP, jacketed with soft lead flat.

I will have to talk to Henery about the lever popping open when loading the magazine.

[JEBar]

I am having what I think is a problem. When loading the magazine tube, and especially when I push the inner tube down to lock it in place, the lever pops part way open. Is this a common thing, or is it a problem.

nope, not a common problem .... does the magazine rod seem to be tight or catching on the shells as you are pushing it down the tube ? ....

[ESquared]

ESquared,

I have been loading only five rounds at a time for load testing.

I will have to talk to Henery about the lever popping open when loading the magazine.

My $.02 is that you have a chat with Henry about your groups as well, especially if you can provide them with some photos of your set-up and the targets. Something sounds "off," and it's beyond me what it could be. If it were barrel alignment, they'd at least group consistently (I'd think) instead of your buckshot pattern.

Everything you posted will be important to them, but I'd be shocked if you didn't have a UPS label in your email on the same day you make contact.

It's a bummer to have to go through this, but at least now you're likely to get an idea of why their customer service reputation is as good as it is.

Please keep us posted. They'll take care of you.

[Mags]

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Welcome from the TV, Oregon!

Although others have said otherwise, Yes the lever popping is a common problem. I have spoken with HenryCS about it. A couple years ago Henry tried to design the problem out but was only marginally successful. Still happens with some new as well as with some rifles Henry has repaired. Mine does it while inserting the inner mag tube and it gets hung up on ammo case rim(s) while slightly forcing the inner mag tube. It also helps when inserting the inner mag tube to twist it, helps the inner tube slip past the case rims. I've also found that in using Federal Fusion ammo, I almost never encounter the inner tube getting hung up on case rims and hence no lever popping. Also Federal Fusion is what my Henry likes the best when shooting. Least liked Remington Core Lokt and Winchester Power Point.

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http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5127

I recently received my new Henry Big Boy in 45 Colt caliber. It is a real beauty to look at.

I am having what I think is a problem. When loading the magazine tube, and especially when I push the inner tube down to lock it in place, the lever pops part way open. Is this a common thing, or is it a problem.

Second concern I have with the rifle is it is extremely fussy about the ammo it will shoot accurately and it doesn't seem to be consistent from one time to the next. I have noticed the rifle is very sensitive to any variation of pressure on the forearm making it very difficult to shoot accurately.

I welcome any suggestions other members may have.

[BobGinVA]

Take the scope off and try it with the same loads...sounds like a bad mount/scope....besides, if you ship it back to Henry, you have to do that anyway...
BobG in VA

[ESquared]

Loose reticle? Dunno, but still scratchin' my head over why they're spraying all over the target at just 50 yds...

[Rifletom]

Lead Head, this may mean nothing, but, you mentioned handloads weren't working well. Then said one factory brand works fine for accuracy. Is your OAL the same? How much of a crimp? I have two Henry rifles, a .357 and .45 Colt, both with 20" barrels. No issue with mag tube/ lever popping. Puzzled.

[Lead Head]

I spoke with Henry customer service this morning. I gave them the serial number of my Henry and they said it was manufactured May of this year. Then I told them of the problem with lever popping part way open after loading five rounds in the magazine tube and inserting the inner tube causing the lever to pop partially open.

The answer was they recommend loading the magazine tube with the rifle at a 45 degree angle to prevent the lever from popping open. They said the combined weight of the cartridges and then inserting the inner tube with the rifle at the 45 degree angle is less likely to cause a problem.

Nothing wrong with the scope or scope mount. The rifle shoots Federal 225 gr. RNFP ammo like it is a target rifle. I do wish it would shoot lead near as good. So far I have only tried 250 gr. lead. I have two lead bullets that are lighter in weight. Maybe they will do better.

Today I tried some loads using 230 gr. Hornady XTP and 200 gr Hornady XTP bullets. These preliminary loads all look like they will be good for accuracy also.

I may find some lead to shoot well in this rifle. I can only hope so because lead is cheaper than factory jacketed bullets.

[Mistered]

Welcome to the forum from Wickiup Junction, Oregon!
Read this thread from a while back. In it I describe what I did to solve this problem.
Read all the posts as my fix for the problem 'evolved' after working on it repeatedly.
http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.p ... =deburring

[Rifletom]

Mistered, I just read your posts you included above. Enlightening! Simple fix and thank you for that. I haven't had that issue in my two Henry's, but, if it happens, I'll know what to do. Again, Thanks. What a great forum!

[ESquared]

I may find some lead to shoot well in this rifle. I can only hope so because lead is cheaper than factory jacketed bullets.

It may be old news to you, but you might investigate Missouri Bullet Company's Hy-Tek coated lead projectiles. Have used them in my 45 Colt Carbine with great results.

Different weights to choose from, of course, but here's a good one:
http://missouribullet.com/details.php?p ... condary=14

[Rifletom]

I have no complaints using those coated Missouri bullets. 250gr RNFP coated also. Very good bullets.

[RanchRoper]

I had a BB 45 Colt I sold to a buddy of mine. It loved Winchester lead ammo.

[bdbrown66]

I also have one in .45 Colt, and I've been trying to work up a good load for deer hunting. So far, I've been trying the Speer 260gr JHP, as well as coated lead SWC and RNFP in the 250gr range. Although I've been testing at 100 yards instead of 50 yards, I have also found it to be very finicky about loads. So far, I have one load with the JHP that is acceptable, about 3" groups at 100. I have not found a good load with the coated lead bullets yet, but I have a batch ready to test. Someone suggested that I experiment with the OAL, so I loaded these rounds at 1.60" to see if that makes a difference. We'll see.

[BigAl52]

Did you check those sized at 1.600 oal to make sure that they would cycle in your gun. You might also try the Hornady xtp bullet for the colt along with some 2400 powder if you have some

[bdbrown66]

Did you check those sized at 1.600 oal to make sure that they would cycle in your gun. You might also try the Hornady xtp bullet for the colt along with some 2400 powder if you have some

Al,

No problem with cycling the loads at 1.600. However, it didn't seem to make a difference, accuracy-wise. I've got some XTP's on order and will continue the search with them.