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Going to my first BP shoot this Saturday
Going to my first BP shoot this Saturday
I haven't posted for a little while about my learning how to handle my Trapper pistol. This is an update, and it's been interesting.
I did get with the LGS owner for a one-on-one intro to my pistol. He took some good time (about 1-1/2 hours), answered my questions, and I actually did some hands on and dis-assembled/re-assembled it. In addition to basic operations, he shared a lot of what he has learned from long-time experience shooting BP pistols and rifles. So had a good number of tips by the time I left.
After the training, I spent another 1/2 hour or so shopping for the supplies and tools I need to finally get to the range. BTW, that time also included some demo training on how to use the tools, e.g. pointers on ram rod use, loading round balls, cleaning, etc. Also learned where to stop and what not to try and adjust on the gun. All in all, the whole visit was quite good. I learned a bunch.
Last week and this week I've had several phone calls with the president of a nearby BP shooting group, called the Ft. Osage Muzzleloaders. This gent is willing to meet with me one-on-one also when I shoot the first time. However, today we postponed that time, and instead he invited me to a weekend shoot going on this Fri-Sun. He said that will also give me the chance to see what the members do, and enjoy the fun of myself shooting and/or watching other folk compete in several events, including off hand shooting, either one-handed or two-handed. My cup of tea (bold) will be served! So, I plan to get there early Saturday. The end of day for me will be when afternoon temps start to ramp up. Much prefer temps in the 60s-70s. Anyway, I'll bring my Trapper and all shooting equipment, plus the president wants to see my Russian .45 Colt top break. Looking forward to the shoot.
One last thing. The LGS owner told me that the very best way to sight in this BP pistol is to use a bench rest. All I can say is that this is a mega ouch --- a bench rest is my nemesis! He told me that because of the heavy gun, trying to hold it steady enough off hand probably will not work well at all. How to fix this so I can see with my trifocals?!?
Today, I jerry-rigged a bench rest; definitely a "crude" construction, but it stands quite solidly. I have a dense foam-rubber bench rest, which I had always tried to use with my Henry rifles. It always was way too short, and couldn't get my head positioned to correctly use my glasses lenses. It stands on end at about 11 inches. I have a bunch of smaller Bores Store storage bags, and some remnants of their material from older bags. I folded them into a fairly large rectangle, and roped them to the top of the foam rubber bench rest. The bench rest height is now at 16-1/4 inches. When I rest the pistol on it, I'm able to slightly tilt my head backwards comfortably to use my middle glasses lens, and have good sight acquisition down the 9.75" pistol barrel. Also bringing to the range a very low-to-the-ground workshop chair I have. The low chair and high bench rest might just get me through this. The muzzle of the pistol hangs 4" or so in front of the Bores bag rest. I shouldn't have any muzzle "fire" near the rest. Attached is a picture of this jerry-rigged rest....kind of ugly and utilitarian. Just hope it works for me!
Take care, Everybody!
PT7
I did get with the LGS owner for a one-on-one intro to my pistol. He took some good time (about 1-1/2 hours), answered my questions, and I actually did some hands on and dis-assembled/re-assembled it. In addition to basic operations, he shared a lot of what he has learned from long-time experience shooting BP pistols and rifles. So had a good number of tips by the time I left.
After the training, I spent another 1/2 hour or so shopping for the supplies and tools I need to finally get to the range. BTW, that time also included some demo training on how to use the tools, e.g. pointers on ram rod use, loading round balls, cleaning, etc. Also learned where to stop and what not to try and adjust on the gun. All in all, the whole visit was quite good. I learned a bunch.
Last week and this week I've had several phone calls with the president of a nearby BP shooting group, called the Ft. Osage Muzzleloaders. This gent is willing to meet with me one-on-one also when I shoot the first time. However, today we postponed that time, and instead he invited me to a weekend shoot going on this Fri-Sun. He said that will also give me the chance to see what the members do, and enjoy the fun of myself shooting and/or watching other folk compete in several events, including off hand shooting, either one-handed or two-handed. My cup of tea (bold) will be served! So, I plan to get there early Saturday. The end of day for me will be when afternoon temps start to ramp up. Much prefer temps in the 60s-70s. Anyway, I'll bring my Trapper and all shooting equipment, plus the president wants to see my Russian .45 Colt top break. Looking forward to the shoot.
One last thing. The LGS owner told me that the very best way to sight in this BP pistol is to use a bench rest. All I can say is that this is a mega ouch --- a bench rest is my nemesis! He told me that because of the heavy gun, trying to hold it steady enough off hand probably will not work well at all. How to fix this so I can see with my trifocals?!?
Today, I jerry-rigged a bench rest; definitely a "crude" construction, but it stands quite solidly. I have a dense foam-rubber bench rest, which I had always tried to use with my Henry rifles. It always was way too short, and couldn't get my head positioned to correctly use my glasses lenses. It stands on end at about 11 inches. I have a bunch of smaller Bores Store storage bags, and some remnants of their material from older bags. I folded them into a fairly large rectangle, and roped them to the top of the foam rubber bench rest. The bench rest height is now at 16-1/4 inches. When I rest the pistol on it, I'm able to slightly tilt my head backwards comfortably to use my middle glasses lens, and have good sight acquisition down the 9.75" pistol barrel. Also bringing to the range a very low-to-the-ground workshop chair I have. The low chair and high bench rest might just get me through this. The muzzle of the pistol hangs 4" or so in front of the Bores bag rest. I shouldn't have any muzzle "fire" near the rest. Attached is a picture of this jerry-rigged rest....kind of ugly and utilitarian. Just hope it works for me!
Take care, Everybody!
PT7
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Re: Going to my first BP shoot this Saturday
good to see you are getting started .... enjoy the process and report back often
Re: Going to my first BP shoot this Saturday
Sorry, won't happen. My last Henry SGC sold this past weekend. There are no more long guns in my gun cabinet. All I'm able to shoot are handguns due to the myriad elder-eye problems I have. It's actually a relief to be sans rifles or shotguns.
I still admire the beautiful Henrys our members photograph and share on our Forum, especially the great-looking MO wood furniture. Really enjoy wood. And I know I'll see some nice-looking BP rifles this weekend. For the BP guns, I've found I especially like the old-world look of the locks against dark wood.
I'm content with what I now have.
I still admire the beautiful Henrys our members photograph and share on our Forum, especially the great-looking MO wood furniture. Really enjoy wood. And I know I'll see some nice-looking BP rifles this weekend. For the BP guns, I've found I especially like the old-world look of the locks against dark wood.
I'm content with what I now have.
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Re: Going to my first BP shoot this Saturday
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Re: Going to my first BP shoot this Saturday
Enjoy it PT and I know you will. Shooting BP is alot of fun. Dont place to much on how you do the first time. Just have fun. Hopefully there will be some revolvers there and you will be able to shoot one.
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Re: Going to my first BP shoot this Saturday
You're on the right track for shooting any handgun off a bench. Getting low and tucked works well for shooting a scoped rifle off a bag, but not for those of us who shoot handguns with bifocals or our progressive lenses. Get that rest up high enough to see these sights, properly. If the rest thing doesn't work out, even just sitting upright on a chair and shooting the pistol without support will supply a touch more steadiness than a full standing position.
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Re: Going to my first BP shoot this Saturday
Great looking pistol. Pretty sure BP isn't my kind of thing but that certainly sounds like a lot of fun indeed.
Re: Going to my first BP shoot this Saturday
The multiple options you provide to all of us about shooting are always helpful, Joanie. Glad I'm on track, because the "dictator" named Elder Eyes has forced me to do something to help myself.
I really think the rest height is almost perfect. The one unknown is the height of the shooting bench at the BP range. But I'll see that in a couple of days. Yes, of course. In a sonic second I'm always ready to shuck the rest and relax shooting offhand. That is the option you noted that I so appreciate.
Onward
I really think the rest height is almost perfect. The one unknown is the height of the shooting bench at the BP range. But I'll see that in a couple of days. Yes, of course. In a sonic second I'm always ready to shuck the rest and relax shooting offhand. That is the option you noted that I so appreciate.
Onward
North Country Gal wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:43 amYou're on the right track for shooting any handgun off a bench. Getting low and tucked works well for shooting a scoped rifle off a bag, but not for those of us who shoot handguns with bifocals or our progressive lenses. Get that rest up high enough to see these sights, properly. If the rest thing doesn't work out, even just sitting upright on a chair and shooting the pistol without support will supply a touch more steadiness than a full standing position.
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Re: Going to my first BP shoot this Saturday
Guess what, Dan? I don't yet know if "BP is my kind of thing."
I've been interested in it for a while now, but only have been reading, which is not even much of a vicarious experience.
But so far, having the pistol in hand, learning about it, and even taking it apart and re-assembling have all been a lot of fun. The hands-on range time will be telling for sure. Another reason I'm looking forward to this part of the shooting sports is because I no longer will be shooting long guns. This pistol, from another time in history, is basically what I consider a "replacement" retirement hobby. And I'm going into it 100% looking
to enjoy it!
Appreciate the compliment on my pistol's good looks.
PT7
But so far, having the pistol in hand, learning about it, and even taking it apart and re-assembling have all been a lot of fun. The hands-on range time will be telling for sure. Another reason I'm looking forward to this part of the shooting sports is because I no longer will be shooting long guns. This pistol, from another time in history, is basically what I consider a "replacement" retirement hobby. And I'm going into it 100% looking
Appreciate the compliment on my pistol's good looks.
PT7
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Re: Going to my first BP shoot this Saturday
Well, if it is you might become interested in a repro 'period' revolver of some style.Guess what, Dan? I don't yet know if "BP is my kind of thing."
My 'old' CVA 1851 Navy .36
Re: Going to my first BP shoot this Saturday
From the top Uberti 1860 Army
Ruger Old Army
Lyman Plains pistol 54 caliber
Pedersoli Harpers Ferry 54 caliber smooth bore. There you go PT some more pistolas for you to look at.
Ruger Old Army
Lyman Plains pistol 54 caliber
Pedersoli Harpers Ferry 54 caliber smooth bore. There you go PT some more pistolas for you to look at.
Don't let the old man in
H001T .22LR
H001T .22LR MONUMENT VALLEY
H003T PUMP .22LR
BBS .41 MAG
SS .357
SIDE GATE 38-55
H001T .22LR
H001T .22LR MONUMENT VALLEY
H003T PUMP .22LR
BBS .41 MAG
SS .357
SIDE GATE 38-55
Re: Going to my first BP shoot this Saturday
I'm sitting here grinning at your posts, Gentlemen!
At this moment, I haven't even shot a BP pistol yet, and you two are encouraging me to start filling up my gun cabinet.
What a hoot before I shoot
At this moment, I haven't even shot a BP pistol yet, and you two are encouraging me to start filling up my gun cabinet.
What a hoot before I shoot
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Re: Going to my first BP shoot this Saturday
We are good at what we do PT enabling is part of the fun you see.
Don't let the old man in
H001T .22LR
H001T .22LR MONUMENT VALLEY
H003T PUMP .22LR
BBS .41 MAG
SS .357
SIDE GATE 38-55
H001T .22LR
H001T .22LR MONUMENT VALLEY
H003T PUMP .22LR
BBS .41 MAG
SS .357
SIDE GATE 38-55
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Re: Going to my first BP shoot this Saturday
PT7...my advice? Don't worry about accuracy and just enjoy making smoke and re-living some history!
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Re: Going to my first BP shoot this Saturday
Totally agree, RR. Some smoking history sounds great!
I'm going to try the bench approach and see how my DIY rest works....just for the experience of it. And with adjustable rear and front sights on this pistol, it'll be good to check that I'm on paper or able to clang steel. But group size or writing my initials on a target with bullet holes...not.
Like I had mentioned already, it will take but the blink of an eye to get away from the bench rest and shoot standing, off hand. Then the real fun begins!
Always appreciate hearing from you what it is all about.
I'm going to try the bench approach and see how my DIY rest works....just for the experience of it. And with adjustable rear and front sights on this pistol, it'll be good to check that I'm on paper or able to clang steel. But group size or writing my initials on a target with bullet holes...not.
Like I had mentioned already, it will take but the blink of an eye to get away from the bench rest and shoot standing, off hand. Then the real fun begins!
Always appreciate hearing from you what it is all about.
RanchRoper wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:31 pmPT7...my advice? Don't worry about accuracy and just enjoy making smoke and re-living some history!
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Re: Going to my first BP shoot this Saturday
All sounds good if you ask me. Frankly I have a good bit of fun doing the research myself as well. Learning about the history or intricate details. Either way it does look like a very nice gun and good luck on that BP thing. It's not that it would take so long but I'm afraid I would end up getting black powder all over the place. LOLPT7 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:44 pmGuess what, Dan? I don't yet know if "BP is my kind of thing."I've been interested in it for a while now, but only have been reading, which is not even much of a vicarious experience.
But so far, having the pistol in hand, learning about it, and even taking it apart and re-assembling have all been a lot of fun. The hands-on range time will be telling for sure. Another reason I'm looking forward to this part of the shooting sports is because I no longer will be shooting long guns. This pistol, from another time in history, is basically what I consider a "replacement" retirement hobby. And I'm going into it 100% lookingto enjoy it!
Appreciate the compliment on my pistol's good looks.![]()
PT7