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Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by PT7 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:33 am

Interesting, Gunny. "Out of your misery."
I have no doubt that lightning "strike" was most effective! :)

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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by GunnyGene » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:56 am

PT7 wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:33 am
Interesting, Gunny. "Out of your misery."
I have no doubt that lightning "strike" was most effective! :)
I try to avoid attributing human feelings and actions to inanimate objects. ;)
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Re: Does a really a good brush gun really exist ?

Post by Old Syko » Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:47 pm

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35 Rem, or if you really need it, take one the 444's.

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Besides, I was always told you don't fire unless you're sure you have a clear shot and a certain backstop. ;)

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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by tarbe » Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:53 pm

Lots of factors to consider, when trying to shoot through any sort of interference.

I agree that shooting through brush is generally a no-no.

Last week in Zimbabwe I was faced with a situation where quite possibly an entire two week hunt was hanging on getting a shot off on a bull, before his buddy crossed into my scent trail...but the bull I wanted to shoot wasn't going to clear the bush in time.

Fortunately the bull was immediately behind the bush, and I was shooting a 550gr .458" bullet.

The bullet was deflected about 4" from my point of aim, and the entrance hole was not quite circular (little bit of yaw going on there) but the bull died within about 10 seconds.

These decisions are often made in seconds, factoring a bunch of data, and in this case it was done after 9 hours of tracking this herd and various cat and mouse games (from 0700 to 1600).
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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by PT7 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:22 pm

tarbe wrote:
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Last week in Zimbabwe I was faced with a situation where quite possibly an entire two week hunt was hanging on getting a shot off on a bull...
I'm not certain which is the best shot, uh, the best photo? This bull or the zebra from your earlier hunt?

Wow, through the bush, and the shot only being 4" off your POA.....very nice job! Just how close were you when you decided? Bottom line, a 10-second end to a humane kill.

Final Q. Do you have plans for those antlers?

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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by tarbe » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:56 pm

I was 40 yards from the bull, at the shot.

The bull was a couple of feet behind the bush. If he had been 10 feet or more behind the bush I most certainly would not have shot. Too great a chance of a wounding shot...and you don't want to wound a Cape Buffalo! They are notorious for their adrenaline dump and they like to get even.

If anything is a "brush buster" it is a 550gr 45 cal slug...but this slug was deflected 4" on target with the target just a couple feet from the source of interference. Sobering!
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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by tarbe » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:58 pm

The rounds on the right are what I was using:
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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by JEBar » Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:49 pm

heck of a round .... well executed indeed

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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by Ojaileveraction » Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:01 pm

That is Hunting that few ever experience.
Real 'Out of Africa' stuff.
Thank you for sharing it with us.

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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by BigAl52 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:43 pm

So what happens to the meat from this guy was it given to the locals? Did you bring any of it back or have you eaten any of this animal.
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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by tarbe » Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:02 am

Ojaileveraction wrote:
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That is Hunting that few ever experience.
Real 'Out of Africa' stuff.
Thank you for sharing it with us.
I am truly blessed to have been able to make this trip a reality. Once in a lifetime, for sure.

It was a 50 year dream to hunt Cape Buffalo on foot, in a large, wild place (this was an 850,000 acre block in Zimbabwe).

Where you go and who you go with is very critical. I can highly recommend John Sharp Safaris. John is a pro and the real deal. A pleasure to share camp with. You will learn how to hunt Africa!
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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by PT7 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:37 am

tarbe wrote:
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I am truly blessed to have been able to make this trip a reality. Once in a lifetime, for sure.
It was a 50 year dream to hunt Cape Buffalo on foot, in a large, wild place...
Yes, having a life-long dream fulfilled is huge....glad it all turned out so great!

Another cool photo of the bull. Seeing this second pic, I'm still curious about what you'll do with the antlers?
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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by tarbe » Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:50 am

PT7 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:37 am
tarbe wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:02 am
I am truly blessed to have been able to make this trip a reality. Once in a lifetime, for sure.
It was a 50 year dream to hunt Cape Buffalo on foot, in a large, wild place...
Yes, having a life-long dream fulfilled is huge....glad it all turned out so great!

Another cool photo of the bull. Seeing this second pic, I'm still curious about what you'll do with the antlers?
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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by PT7 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:56 am

That sounds very 8-) , Tarbe. The antlers must be quite heavy, and I'd think it would be hard to wall-mount them. If and when you decide, it sure would be fun to see what the final mounting looks like. Thanks!
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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by tarbe » Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:25 pm

I did pick up the skull/horns and all flushed out they were probably about 45-50 pounds. Add the skin back on and yes, it will be a pretty heavy mount!
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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by JEBar » Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:07 pm

I'd really like to hear all of the details related to your travel, shipping your rifle, preparations for the hunt, method used to hunt your bull, any other animals you considered taking and most anything you'd care to share .... for me such a hunt will always remain an unrealized dream .... thanks for sharing yours

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