Henrys Original

[dddrees]

Those who choose Uberti probably do so for the authenticity of having a Colt replica.
Ruger isn't really replicating anything specific but are producing a quality SA revolver of their own design.
An I too am a fan of Ruger and have owned several - but none currently.

Well, as stated Uberti does tend to be more true to the original in all the cases I have mentioned previously. Most certainly a draw, I however had other concerns or needs that were always more important or worked better for me in the end.

[Travlin]

I do know that H.R.A. bought an original Henry rifle to reverse engineer the one that they made. There was a picture of it and the serial number in an article in GUNS OF THE OLD WEST.

[RanchRoper]

That's true in my case. I like the old west replica appeal of the Uberti. Don't get me wrong my Big Boy I sold was a shooter and my buddy LOVES it. But I am very happy with my replica guns.

I posted a link awhile back that shows the difference in the stocks. The HRA one is an early version of the 1860 with a deeper belly on the stock and the Uberti is a less deep stock more common to later model 1860's.

https://www.precisiongunstocks.com/cont ... us/d9.html

[BigAl52]

None.

RP

Seems some other fellas have chimed in to let this guy know doesnt know what hes talking about. Have you kept up on it Vaquero? One even emailed Henry.

[Mistered]

There was a picture of it and the serial number in an article in GUNS OF THE OLD WEST.

Got a link or a copy of the article?
I'd LOVE to read it!

[dddrees]

That's true in my case. I like the old west replica appeal of the Uberti. Don't get me wrong my Big Boy I sold was a shooter and my buddy LOVES it. But I am very happy with my replica guns.

I posted a link awhile back that shows the difference in the stocks. The HRA one is an early version of the 1860 with a deeper belly on the stock and the Uberti is a less deep stock more common to later model 1860's.

https://www.precisiongunstocks.com/cont ... us/d9.html

Well, there's certainly a noticeable diffrence when compared to my various Winchester replicas. Of course these are replicas of the 1866 and 1873. As of yet I have not seen any actual Henry rifles or even the Uberti but the Original Henry as you say definitely has pretty deep belly on it's stock.

[Vaquero]

None.

RP

Seems some other fellas have chimed in to let this guy know doesnt know what hes talking about. Have you kept up on it Vaquero? One even emailed Henry.

No sir, I haven't been back over since the other day.
I will later though.

RP

[Mistered]

What forum is this on?
I would like to follow it.

[Vaquero]

What forum is this on?
I would like to follow it.

Cast Boolits.com
I believe it's in the lever gun section.

RP

[Mistered]

Cast Boolits.com

Thanks! found it!

[Mags]

... and it looks like Dina in HenryCS shut that down.

[BigAl52]

Ya the guy dont have anything else to say I know hes been on there and seen it.

[Travlin]

Guns Of The Old West Summer 2018 issue. There is a photo of the original 1860 Henry Rifle serial # 8261 that was disassembled to reverse -engineer the tooling for the H.R.A. model of that rifle. The only notable change was a slight lengthening of the action to use the centerfire cartridge.

[dddrees]

Just another little tid bit for those that might be interested. I find it interesting that the Winchester Yellow Boy or 1866 I received back from Winchester last week that had been polished has already started to get a patina and the New Original Henry that I got more than a couple of months ago is still as shiny as the day I got it. I don't know how the brass alloy is on a Uberti but there certainly seems to be something different about the brass alloy that Henry uses.

[Mistered]

I don't know how the brass alloy is on a Uberti but there certainly seems to be something different about the brass allow that Henry uses.

I found the following on another site with regard to Henry brass frame question:

The brass receiver is probably cast from a brass alloy similar to "ships brass" which is 70% copper and 30% zinc. The copper gives it the goldish color. Compare to softer "cartridge brass" which is 60/40 Cu/Zn. So I'd call both a copper alloy since greatest percent in the alloy. The density of iron(cold steel) is about 7.9 compared to the density of copper 9.0 and Zn 7.1 so if weight of the brass model is higher then there has to be high amount of copper in the alloy if it was more zinc it would actually be lighter than steel.

[dddrees]

I don't know how the brass alloy is on a Uberti but there certainly seems to be something different about the brass allow that Henry uses.

I found the following on another site with regard to Henry brass frame question:

The brass receiver is probably cast from a brass alloy similar to "ships brass" which is 70% copper and 30% zinc. The copper gives it the goldish color. Compare to softer "cartridge brass" which is 60/40 Cu/Zn. So I'd call both a copper alloy since greatest percent in the alloy. The density of iron(cold steel) is about 7.9 compared to the density of copper 9.0 and Zn 7.1 so if weight of the brass model is higher then there has to be high amount of copper in the alloy if it was more zinc it would actually be lighter than steel.

Thanks



It's very easy to wipe or shine the Henry with a soft cloth but with the Winchester 1866 soft cloth alone will not bring back the shine or clean the patina off of the Winchester. Just two diffrent animals entirely.

[Mistered]

I'll gamble on the Henry brass being of a harder composition.

[dddrees]

I'll gamble on the Henry brass being of a harder composition.

Well considering my Winchester Miroku 1866 supports 38s only I would think your right. The Uberti version of the 1866 supports 38 only as well based on what I saw on Taylors website. The Winchester Miroku 1873 on the other hand is 357\38 but then again the reciever is steel and not their brass alloy. This to me is another indication that Uberti is probably not supplying parts to Henry Repeating Arms Co. At least not the brass alloy anyway. Anything is possible but it seems to me if Uberti were able to make a better alloy they might want to also use it themselves.

[BigRooster616]

As a SASS Shooter for many years .
I own Uberti rifles in 1860 1866 1873's .
I can tell you Beyond a shadow of doubt.
The HRA 1860 is NOT a Uberti.
I own both 1860's and they are very different Rifles altogether.
Love then both for different reasons.
So saith the Rooster

[bspaulding]

New to this forum so don't know where I should be...

I inherited my Great Grandfather's HENRY .44 rimfire and am trying to decide what to do with it. It has been in a safe for the least 70 years I know of and I understand it may be of value.

It is serial number 3002 but that is all I can determine, My Grandfather told me it was his Dad's and purchased in Sacramento CA in the 1860's. They moved back east somewhere (Illinois???) then settled in Hemet CA. 40 years ago I took it to a gun dealer in San Francisco to be restored and they said to keep it as it was as the screws etc. were original and had never been touched.

According to the New Haven Arms website the riffle was produced in September of 1863

Does anybody have any further info on this piece?

Thanks, Bill