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Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

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Does a really a good brush gun really exist ?

Post by JEBar » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:02 pm

this is a link to a very interesting field test designed to the answer a long running question about a "good brush gun" ===> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5dve7vAY9I

until recently, all of my big game (deer/bear/boar) have been 30 caliber and I learned the hard way to refrain from trying to bust the brush .... this video confirms that was a valid lesson and it also provides an option .... I thoroughly enjoyed it

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Re: Does a really a good brush gun really exist ?

Post by North Country Gal » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:46 pm

I enjoyed it, too. Very interesting. Hard to argue with results.

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Re: Does a really a good brush gun really exist ?

Post by JEBar » Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:19 pm

discussions centering on brush guns have gone on for as long as I can remember .... back in the late 50's/early 60's I remember discussing by very experienced bear hunters on brush guns .... that was the era when 30-30 Winchesters and 35 Marlins were the rifles of choice among most of the fellows I hunted with in my grandfather's bear hunting club ... however, most of those who routinely hunted the thickest brush carried 12 gauges with OO-buck or rifle slugs .... even as 30-06's and 308's became more and more popular, the brush hunters stuck with their shotguns .... we knew that faster bullets would spin off of course when they encountered branches .... this video would seem to explain why 1 oz slugs did so well

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Re: Does a really a good brush gun really exist ?

Post by JCN » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:35 pm

I really like his videos and have watched many over the last few years.

This one had some fun evidence to back up his theory. He got excited when he proved his point with the Henry!
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Post by SB44mag » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:39 pm

My all time favorite "brush" gun was the Marlin in .35 Rem. I call Brush anything inside the woods line. Open fields called for the " bean field" .30 cals. .... .06 , 308,
Time passes and old favorites come and go.... RIP. .35 Rem !
These days with the scales moving more away from hi power rifles to straight walled pistol calibers being legal to hunt with as residential areas continue to expand I am carrying the .50 cal muzzleloader over the shotgun until Delaware passes the pistol ammo law.... We already have handgun so it's only a matter of time.
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Post by Gregorsway » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:22 pm

Quite an interesting fellow in the video. I wouldn't want to be on the other side of the brush with him shooting any of these rifles. I also watched his Henry Big Boy review of the 45-70 brassy. He blew up 3 liter soda bottles and helpless melons. He's a good shot with those open sights! Thanks for sharing this- I've never seen it.

We hunt from tree stands here and do our best to prune and bush hog shooting lanes for a clear bullet path. This theory seems to be more about "slip hunting" on foot or possibly deer drives. We normally use scatter guns with buck shot here in N.C. It would have been interesting if you used a shotgun with slugs or buck shot also.

Either way, I enjoyed it probably a little too much!

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Re: Does a really a good brush gun really exist ?

Post by JEBar » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:40 pm

Gregorsway wrote:We hunt from tree stands here and do our best to prune and bush hog shooting lanes for a clear bullet path. This theory seems to be more about "slip hunting" on foot or possibly deer drives. We normally use scatter guns with buck shot here in N.C. It would have been interesting if you used a shotgun with slugs or buck shot also.
for many years I was a member of a deer hunting "down east" in NC and later ran a club that had land 4 central counties .... our hunting varied from ringing fields over a square mile in size with Texas type tower stands to thick woods ..... for the most part we were still hunters who set up a stand in a given area and hunted whatever walked by .... we also did some hunting running dogs .... each type of hunting required different types of firearms .... shotguns for dog hunts and deep in the woods .... also shotguns for hunting the edge of our property near housing areas and for use when a line of hunter walked through an area driving deer toward stationary hunters at the other end of the area .... long range (and I do mean long range) rifles for hunting from stands over vast fields .... 100/200 yard rifles for smaller fields .... I really enjoyed those years

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Re: Does a really a good brush gun really exist ?

Post by daytime dave » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:32 am

I liked the video. Thanks for posting it. I guess the closest I have to a brush gun is my .44 mag Big Boy.
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Re: Does a really a good brush gun really exist ?

Post by ditto1958 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:32 pm

I wouldn't hesitate to use my Marlin 336 in 35 Remington in brush.

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Post by Ojaileveraction » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:34 pm

Nice video, thanks for the link.
That replicates written accounts of test I've read.
I like what he said atbthd end,"sure a 30 caliber expands but a 58 caliber doesn't shrink".

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Re: Does a really a good brush gun really exist ?

Post by BigAl52 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:09 pm

I had seen that video before. I like his videos and have watched quite a few of his. He has tested quite a few Henrys and really speaks highly of the company.
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Re: Does a really a good brush gun really exist ?

Post by ESquared » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:25 pm

Holy cow! It was like he had to wait for the smoke to clear from his first shot with that Snyder (sp?) before he could take the 2nd shot.

Great video, thanks very much for sharing!
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Re: Does a really a good brush gun really exist ?

Post by Vaquero » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:44 pm

35 Rem, or if you really need it, take one the 444's.

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Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by BrokenolMarine » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:00 pm

Found this on you tube. I've watched a lot of his Vids... Usually very good.
Enjoy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5dve7vAY9I

Part 2

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zCOzNzIkN4M
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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by BigAl52 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:46 pm

I like his videos and have watch this one before. Eric does a good job.
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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by PT7 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:58 pm

Thanks for the post, Marine. I've seen part 1 of this series before; it was very good, and my first view of part 2 was even better.

Well, Folk, he's rating the Henry .30-30 with a little "flapping of the hand." That's okay. It still is an excellent deer-hunting Henry rifle caliber. I agree that he finally said "don't put them away." ;)

For me, a shotgun using slugs is the best. But as I've sent hundreds of 1 oz. and 1-1/8 oz. slugs downrange, I would definitely not use a lightweight $100 single shot. The Benelli Nova 12-ga Pump I used was heavy with a most functional recoil suppressor I installed in the stock. Yeah, it smartly kicked, but was very manageable.

His Brenneke slug ammo choice is top-notch for hunting. I've not used the 1-3/8 oz. "Black Magic" he shot. Probably was telling the truth when he said it was a "mean" slug. I used the Brenneke 12ga "Green Lightning" 546gr magnum slug, a less powerful design. It is hard to miss at 50 yards, and easily almost overturns a steel rectangle mounted on a 4"-square post.

That's just a quick jog through those s/g days I experienced. Great long gun and ammo for deer hunting.
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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by ESquared » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:46 pm

Great series. First time I'd seen Part 2 as well.

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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by BigAl52 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:06 pm

Im just gonna poke one through the bushes another good line.
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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by markiver54 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:24 pm

I am an advocate of challenge. I know this is a " Henry " forum, however, in terms of a good brush gun, although my Henry 357 always goes up the mountain with me..my " Brush Gun ", if needed, is my accurate side arm. Most every situation I've ever encountered, I could get the job done with one of my revolvers. Most shot opportunities have almost always been within that range. Love shooting my rifles w/o a doubt, but in my neck of the woods...enough said. Sorry...just reality here.
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Re: Is the Brush Gun a Myth?

Post by GunnyGene » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:30 am

PT7 wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:58 pm
Thanks for the post, Marine. I've seen part 1 of this series before; it was very good, and my first view of part 2 was even better.

Well, Folk, he's rating the Henry .30-30 with a little "flapping of the hand." That's okay. It still is an excellent deer-hunting Henry rifle caliber. I agree that he finally said "don't put them away." ;)

For me, a shotgun using slugs is the best. But as I've sent hundreds of 1 oz. and 1-1/8 oz. slugs downrange, I would definitely not use a lightweight $100 single shot. The Benelli Nova 12-ga Pump I used was heavy with a most functional recoil suppressor I installed in the stock. Yeah, it smartly kicked, but was very manageable.

His Brenneke slug ammo choice is top-notch for hunting. I've not used the 1-3/8 oz. "Black Magic" he shot. Probably was telling the truth when he said it was a "mean" slug. I used the Brenneke 12ga "Green Lightning" 546gr magnum slug, a less powerful design. It is hard to miss at 50 yards, and easily almost overturns a steel rectangle mounted on a 4"-square post.

That's just a quick jog through those s/g days I experienced. Great long gun and ammo for deer hunting.
This Iraqveteran8888 video series was well-done and a worthwhile viewing. 👍

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