Question about reassembly after cleaning

[Not_Invented_Here]

Hi all, new, first-time owner of a Henry BB Carbine in 357/38. I'd like to give it a good cleaning before I take it to the range for the first time. I assume this is the move vs. taking it out once then coming home to break down/clean it. I've watched several videos detailing the process for removing the lever, bolt and ejector, but I have one question about reassembly. The very helpful video I watched was light on details when it came to actually reinserting the lever.

My question is pretty simple - What am I looking for/feeling for as far as properly reinstalling the lever and restoring the action's functionality?

I understand how to reinstall the ejector, and I get that once the ejector is back in, you'll insert the bolt such that the ejector is in the "track." I'm just unclear on what the proper step(s) is/are for getting the lever set in correctly. Could anyone describe this in a bit more detail for me? Thanks in advance.

[Hatchdog]

When inserting the lever slide it in at about a 45 degree angle and align the screw hole in the lever with the hole in the receiver. You’ll find that it goes together almost automatically and is really pretty simple. Most difficult part is the ejector and since you are confident with that you will be fine.

[Not_Invented_Here]

Thanks - yeah, the ejector seems pretty straightforward, albeit a bit difficult to maneuver, but having a track for it to fit together makes sense. I just haven't seen a good picture or clip showing where/what the "inserting" portion of the lever is supposed to fit into, so I wasn't sure if there was something comparable in terms of stuff aligning or fitting together with the lever. Wasn't sure if the bolt had to be in a certain position or anything like that.

[Not_Invented_Here]

Sorry, one other question while I have ya - what do you personally use on the outside of the barrel and for the blued steel receiver to keep them rust free? Just some Hoppe's oil lightly applied to a rag and wipe down? Ballistol?

[GunnyGene]

Thanks - yeah, the ejector seems pretty straightforward, albeit a bit difficult to maneuver, but having a track for it to fit together makes sense. I just haven't seen a good picture or clip showing where/what the "inserting" portion of the lever is supposed to fit into, so I wasn't sure if there was something comparable in terms of stuff aligning or fitting together with the lever. Wasn't sure if the bolt had to be in a certain position or anything like that.

Yes the bolt should be partially open. How much, you'll have to experiment with, but about the same as when you removed the lever. Here's a pic that should help. Note the positions and relationship of everything - hammer, bolt, lever.

[GunnyGene]

Sorry, one other question while I have ya - what do you personally use on the outside of the barrel and for the blued steel receiver to keep them rust free? Just some Hoppe's oil lightly applied to a rag and wipe down? Ballistol?

Oil will work, but many folks ( including me) will also use Renaissance Wax on exterior surfaces. It blocks moisture and oxygen, and is widely used by museums to preserve all kinds of things, including firearms. Here's a link to buy. A small can (7oz) will probably last you a lifetime.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2227541091/

[Not_Invented_Here]

Appreciate the replies all - I think I'm all set

[Vaquero]

Most of mine sitting in the safe at this very moment have little to no oil on the outside surfaces.
But there is a dehumidifier in there.

RP

[Not_Invented_Here]

Just to be clear - The top of the lever that goes into the receiver should sit insight the circled part is what you're saying, yeah?

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[GunnyGene]

Just to be clear - The top of the lever that goes into the receiver should sit insight the circled part is what you're saying, yeah?

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Maybe it's just the orientation of the pic, but I'm not sure what I'm looking at there. Maybe you could take another pic that shows wider view. The lever is the last thing you install after the rifle is otherwise completely assembled.

[Not_Invented_Here]

Just to be clear - The top of the lever that goes into the receiver should sit insight the circled part is what you're saying, yeah?

here.PNG

Maybe it's just the orientation of the pic, but I'm not sure what I'm looking at there. Maybe you could take another pic that shows wider view. The lever is the last thing you install after the rifle is otherwise completely assembled.

Ah yeah, not totally obvious. It's a screencap pulled from an otherwise excellent breakdown tutorial - The left thumb/fingers are gripping the ejector on the side of the bolt as it sits in the bolt "track" - Pretty sure is a top down view of the bolt and the coinslot looking opening is where the lever inserts or sits in to work the bolt.

[GFK]

First question: as Gunny stated, bolt should be partially inserted when reinstalling the lever. I typically place mine far enough end to hold the extractor in place.

Second question: I typically wipe down my firearms with a silicone rag; most have some type of oil. So, it works well. Even without a silicone rag, wiping a firearm with a rag period, seems to do some good. I had went for years (about 17) just wiping a firearm with a rag. They stayed at room temperature though. Don't know if that played a major factor.

[GunnyGene]

Just to be clear - The top of the lever that goes into the receiver should sit insight the circled part is what you're saying, yeah?

here.PNG

Maybe it's just the orientation of the pic, but I'm not sure what I'm looking at there. Maybe you could take another pic that shows wider view. The lever is the last thing you install after the rifle is otherwise completely assembled.

Ah yeah, not totally obvious. It's a screencap pulled from an otherwise excellent breakdown tutorial - The left thumb/fingers are gripping the ejector on the side of the bolt as it sits in the bolt "track" - Pretty sure is a top down view of the bolt and the coinslot looking opening is where the lever inserts or sits in to work the bolt.

I don't know what video's you've been watching, but the only reliable Henry maintenance videos are on the Henry site:

https://www.henryusa.com/own-a-henry/he ... -boy-h006/

For the H006 model BB's there's one sequence of 7 tutorials in the above link. Scroll the video menu right and left to get to the Disassembly and Assembly ones. He's using a .44 mag, but everything is the same for the .357( and the .41mag which I have). That said, he's doing it the hard way by installing the lever early in the process, imho.

Also, as anyone here can tell you, you don't have to completely disassemble the firearm just to remove the bolt. Just take the lever out, cock the hammer and slide the bolt out. The ejector will usually fall out also, so you have to put that back ( a tiny dot of gunsmith glue - grease - on the little nipple helps keep it in place) before you reinstall the bolt, and then the lever.

[Not_Invented_Here]

Maybe it's just the orientation of the pic, but I'm not sure what I'm looking at there. Maybe you could take another pic that shows wider view. The lever is the last thing you install after the rifle is otherwise completely assembled.

Ah yeah, not totally obvious. It's a screencap pulled from an otherwise excellent breakdown tutorial - The left thumb/fingers are gripping the ejector on the side of the bolt as it sits in the bolt "track" - Pretty sure is a top down view of the bolt and the coinslot looking opening is where the lever inserts or sits in to work the bolt.

I don't know what video's you've been watching, but the only reliable Henry maintenance videos are on the Henry site:

https://www.henryusa.com/own-a-henry/he ... -boy-h006/

For the H006 model BB's there's one sequence of 7 tutorials in the above link. Scroll the video menu right and left to get to the Disassembly and Assembly ones. He's using a .44 mag, but everything is the same for the .357( and the .41mag which I have). That said, he's doing it the hard way by installing the lever early in the process, imho.

Also, as anyone here can tell you, you don't have to completely disassemble the firearm just to remove the bolt. Just take the lever out, cock the hammer and slide the bolt out. The ejector will usually fall out also, so you have to put that back ( a tiny dot of gunsmith glue - grease - on the little nipple helps keep it in place) before you reinstall the bolt, and then the lever.

Thanks again for the reply - video for reference. It's nothing complicated - he's just explaining how to remove the lever, bolt and ejector before reinstalling everything, purpose being to enable cleaning from breech to muzzle. Sorry for my confusing explanation, again - got it figured out I think, and the links you provided are super helpful and confirm what I thought I was seeing.

[GunnyGene]

Ah yeah, not totally obvious. It's a screencap pulled from an otherwise excellent breakdown tutorial - The left thumb/fingers are gripping the ejector on the side of the bolt as it sits in the bolt "track" - Pretty sure is a top down view of the bolt and the coinslot looking opening is where the lever inserts or sits in to work the bolt.

I don't know what video's you've been watching, but the only reliable Henry maintenance videos are on the Henry site:

https://www.henryusa.com/own-a-henry/he ... -boy-h006/

For the H006 model BB's there's one sequence of 7 tutorials in the above link. Scroll the video menu right and left to get to the Disassembly and Assembly ones. He's using a .44 mag, but everything is the same for the .357( and the .41mag which I have). That said, he's doing it the hard way by installing the lever early in the process, imho.

Also, as anyone here can tell you, you don't have to completely disassemble the firearm just to remove the bolt. Just take the lever out, cock the hammer and slide the bolt out. The ejector will usually fall out also, so you have to put that back ( a tiny dot of gunsmith glue - grease - on the little nipple helps keep it in place) before you reinstall the bolt, and then the lever.

Thanks again for the reply - video for reference. It's nothing complicated - he's just explaining how to remove the lever, bolt and ejector before reinstalling everything, purpose being to enable cleaning from breech to muzzle. Sorry for my confusing explanation, again - got it figured out I think, and the links you provided are super helpful and confirm what I thought I was seeing.

Ok, great and you're very welcome. We'll be waiting on your range report - don't be shy.

[Luv the lever]

Maybe it's just the orientation of the pic, but I'm not sure what I'm looking at there. Maybe you could take another pic that shows wider view. The lever is the last thing you install after the rifle is otherwise completely assembled.

Ah yeah, not totally obvious. It's a screencap pulled from an otherwise excellent breakdown tutorial - The left thumb/fingers are gripping the ejector on the side of the bolt as it sits in the bolt "track" - Pretty sure is a top down view of the bolt and the coinslot looking opening is where the lever inserts or sits in to work the bolt.

I don't know what video's you've been watching, but the only reliable Henry maintenance videos are on the Henry site:

https://www.henryusa.com/own-a-henry/he ... -boy-h006/

For the H006 model BB's there's one sequence of 7 tutorials in the above link. Scroll the video menu right and left to get to the Disassembly and Assembly ones. He's using a .44 mag, but everything is the same for the .357( and the .41mag which I have). That said, he's doing it the hard way by installing the lever early in the process, imho.

Also, as anyone here can tell you, you don't have to completely disassemble the firearm just to remove the bolt. Just take the lever out, cock the hammer and slide the bolt out. The ejector will usually fall out also, so you have to put that back ( a tiny dot of gunsmith glue - grease - on the little nipple helps keep it in place) before you reinstall the bolt, and then the lever.

I remove the bolt and clean the H009 every range trip but how often should the entire trigger assembly and hammer be cleaned? I get in as far as I can between picks and q-tips and lube the same way but feel lazy, just afraid of the reassembly.

The H004 gets a total breakdown but it’s the only way to access the bore on the 22 with a rod.

Are the H009 and H012 similar in trigger and elevator assembly the same?

[GunnyGene]

I don't know what video's you've been watching, but the only reliable Henry maintenance videos are on the Henry site:

https://www.henryusa.com/own-a-henry/he ... -boy-h006/

For the H006 model BB's there's one sequence of 7 tutorials in the above link. Scroll the video menu right and left to get to the Disassembly and Assembly ones. He's using a .44 mag, but everything is the same for the .357( and the .41mag which I have). That said, he's doing it the hard way by installing the lever early in the process, imho.

Also, as anyone here can tell you, you don't have to completely disassemble the firearm just to remove the bolt. Just take the lever out, cock the hammer and slide the bolt out. The ejector will usually fall out also, so you have to put that back ( a tiny dot of gunsmith glue - grease - on the little nipple helps keep it in place) before you reinstall the bolt, and then the lever.

I remove the bolt and clean the H009 every range trip but how often should the entire trigger assembly and hammer be cleaned? I get in as far as I can between picks and q-tips and lube the same way but feel lazy, just afraid of the reassembly.

The H004 gets a total breakdown but it’s the only way to access the bore on the 22 with a rod.

Are the H009 and H012 similar in trigger and elevator assembly the same?

I don't own an H009 so can't comment on your question. I suspect they are similar, but possibly some differences. Suggest you give Henry a call or email: https://www.henryusa.com/contact-henry-repeating/

[GFK]

I have had my H009 since 2017 and have only taken the trigger assembly out once. Getting out was easy. Aligning it for the screw to go back in, was a challenge for me. Like you, I use cleaning swabs and CLP to clean that area. So far, so good.

[Luv the lever]

I have had my H009 since 2017 and have only taken the trigger assembly out once. Getting out was easy. Aligning it for the screw to go back in, was a challenge for me. Like you, I use cleaning swabs and CLP to clean that area. So far, so good.

The 30-30 was a breeze, the 22 has a lot more parts! The 22 needed it, the H009 wasn’t to bad.