NASCAR 2020

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

Vaquero,

I didn't know you were a member over at the other site.

That was my post over there, lol.

I was just about to say something about it here.

You left out my line that "this should be the last nail in the coffin".

Most know me as an old, stubborn, long time hold-out. I have been sticking up for Nascar for well over the last 10 Years.

And now they have lost me...

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

There has been 3 big changes in Nascar in the last few weeks that should, in my opinion, chase away about 90% of their fan base.

First was banning the Confederate Flag from their fans.

Then there is the controversial Kneeling during the National Anthem, now allowed.

The third thing we cannot talk about on here, but is also an issue with most of the fan base.

I'll be anxiously waiting to see the stands wide open once again. As other than some "new" fans that may give them an initial boost, that will most likely wear off pretty quick, I believe we will see stands more empty than we've ever seen before.

If it happens like I predict, it will be the communication in reality from us to Nascar.

And good luck on trying to get us back.

[Vaquero]

Vaquero,

I didn't know you were a member over at the other site.

Yep, I go by Pereira over there and on several other sites.
Just decided when I joined here to change it up.

RP

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

Vaquero,

I didn't know you were a member over at the other site.

Yep, I go by Pereira over there and on several other sites.
Just decided when I joined here to change it up.

RP

I'm 336 Fan over there. I see where you just acknowledged one of my posts.

[JEBar]

for me, the jury is still out ... I can't remember when I wasn't a pro football fan but I haven't watched a regular season game in several years .... what I'm watching is the behavior of the crews and drivers .... how they react will determine if I continue to support the sport or not

[Grunt67]

I have been a NASCAR fan, since 1962. Saw a lot of changes, some good some not ( my opinion ).
I saw NASCAR allow Richard Petty drive a car that wasn't legal ( switched from the old squared off rear glass to the fast back. )
First issue I remember of kissing someones' butt because of who they are. Never been a Petty fan.
Thru the years, if one mfg. was losing regularly, NASCAR would make changes to help out ( if it won't run, park it ).
For the past several yrs. the have allowed the Network to limit their exposure to the fans. About half the races are on Sat. or cable,
which a lot of folks don't have, self included. This has caused me to lose the interest I once had. I'll still watch on my little antenna,
but I won't spend a dime to do it.
Now all this fiasco with Wallace, Confederate flag, kneeling, etc.. Well, you know the rest.
Enough of my rant. Thanks,
Larry

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

I have to say, as a forever Antenna owner, I can remember when we only got 5 Races a year on TV and I was happy with it. When it grew to about a high of 16, I was amazed. I'm still going to watch it, as long as my stomach can take it anyway, but will not support it either in any way, shape or form, directly or indirectly. I will give them that benefit of the doubt and time will tell if I even give up on that, like I did with the NBA.

Loved those old Larry Bird and Michael Jordan days, but now I won't even turn it on.

[Grunt67]

I was a Larry Bird fan back in the day. Boring now
NFL Cowboy fan, but it's going the way of NASCAR. Quickly
running out of options.
Still got high school football,.......so far.

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

Believe or not, I have been liking Pro Golf in the last few years, also somewhat of a Tennis fan, but nothing close to a (former?) Nascar fan. But my biggest hope now is local Stock Car Racing. My local track is non-Nascar and promoted by Moonshine Capital. That name may speak for itself, lol. It is located in the former "Moonshine Capital of the World" in Franklin County, VA. I have been in contact with them and there is some high hopes on expansion and possible local TV coverage.

Would love to see an organized non-Nascar local circuit with other small tracks in the South. Wouldn't that be something if we could replace Nascar. Imagine luring drivers over from the big league. I know one truck driver that would be ready now.

[Grunt67]

Local stock car racing made what NASCAR became, not what it is now. Maybe it'll go full cycle & go back to its roots.
As long as the sponsors put up with it, it won't change. Sponsors spend their money for positive exposure. No sponsors, no NASCAR. Right now, I think they're pushing their luck. JMHO

[JEBar]

it would appear that somebody has given Bubba some good advice .... if he had of responded this way earlier, I believe things would have blown over quickly

https://www.dailywire.com/news/bubba-wa ... benshapiro

[markiver54]

Local stock car racing made what NASCAR became, not what it is now. Maybe it'll go full cycle & go back to its roots.
As long as the sponsors put up with it, it won't change. Sponsors spend their money for positive exposure. No sponsors, no NASCAR. Right now, I think they're pushing their luck. JMHO

Agreed Larry.
Back when I was a TRUE fan, it was the fastest growing sport.
I think now, it will be the fastest dying sport.....shame.
Given its original fan base and culture, current events are a perfect recipe for quick failure!

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

it would appear that somebody has given Bubba some good advice .... if he had of responded this way earlier, I believe things would have blown over quickly

Bubba Wallace Changes Course In New Sta ... t Few Days

The link would not open for me, but has reminded me of something. It would be appreciated if the source of where the link is from would also be provided. Myself and some others out there don't even want to click on anything Nascar. I don't even want to give them credit of a hit on any of their sites. As of the other day, I have been going to alternative sites for anything I may want to check on concerning drivers, results, etc.

This is also a time where I almost "wish" I had Nascar on paid TV. To give me the pleasure of canceling it.

[JEBar]

my ooooops .... link above corrected and reposted here ====> https://www.dailywire.com/news/bubba-wa ... benshapiro

[Grunt67]

I wasn't buying anything related to NASCAR anyway, so they're not going to miss it. Us antenna folks don't contribute any either.
It'll be up to the other side of the airwaves to do their part. No doubt some will. Will it be enough? Lack of exposure will get the sponsor's attention, if not NASCAR. It'll take a while to have an effect. Empty seats, a big help. Just sit back & watch the show.

[Sir Henry]

NASCAR lost me years ago when they made all the cars the same. Racing isn’t racing if someone isn’t try to cheat the rules. Like when they limited the size of the fuel tank. Someone put in a 1 inch line and took the long route instead of 1/4 inch and the shortest path. That got them an extra two gallons of gas. Now that is racing.

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

Might have been Smokey Yunick. He hid gas in his Roll Bar, lol.

[Rifletom]

Might have been Smokey Yunick. He hid gas in his Roll Bar, lol.

Now that's thinking! I remember in Dale Earrnhart's(#3) early days, if he was having car problems, he'd tear off padding from the roll cage and throw it on the track and say "debris on the track!". Caution.Those characters!

[Cowboy Gun Fan]

That's one thing about Nascar. It's gone flukey on us, but we still got the history of the great old days. We got a whole bunch of races as well. Every once in a while I'll watch an old race on Youtube. There are a bunch of them on there as well as clips, stories, documentaries, etc from the 1950's and up.

Here's a clip on Smokey himself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oFJo17EGr0

[Grunt67]

I loved the old days when the cu.in. & HP were on the hood. The cars actually looked like the one in the showroom. Win on Sun., sell on Mon. Yessir! Hard to beat., IMHO.
Yeah, I know I'm old, LOL. I can't remember what I went into that room for, but I can still remember the racing.