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357 vs 30-30
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Ojaileveraction
Re: 357 vs 30-30
Bullet choice for the 357 is important. XTP, HP type bullets may not get the penetration needed for larger bodied animals like Mule Deer. A Sierra Jacketed Soft Point or their 180gr Jacketed Flat Point are options.
Re: 357 vs 30-30
The Barnes all copper bullets perform quite well and have good penetration at least out of revolvers. When driven too fast they at least maintain a good portion of their weight, loosing only the fairly light petals. But, that is not optimum performance and a WFN hard cast will then probably work just as well. I am not sure how well the Barnes .357 versions do out of a rifle, particularly with accuracy. I have not had good accuracy results with them in .44 Mag out of my Big Boy. I would like to see Hornady come up with a GMX version designed for revolvers and rifles (if possible) in .357, .44, and perhaps .45 Colt.
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Re: 357 vs 30-30
both of our boys hunt whitetail deer with their Ruger GP100 357's with 6" barrels .... I've seen how our handloads using Nosler 158 gr JHP's out to 40+ yards perform .... haven't seen one hit with the same load from our Henry BBS but I have no doubt they will do well ....
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Re: 357 vs 30-30
Speer # 9 manual shows a load using the 180 gr FN bullet intended for the .35 Remington for a .357 rifle load and the write-up says it shot well. I may have to give this a try sometime - if I can find the bullets!
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Re: 357 vs 30-30
180 grain bullets intended for .357 are readily available.
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180 grain for .357 yes but for the .35 Remington most stores might have one box in 220 grain. Been looking for years every time I am in a store picking up other stuff hoping I’ll stumble on a box but I may have to order some.180 grain bullets intended for .357 are readily available.
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Ojaileveraction
Re: 357 vs 30-30
Speer Hot-Cor Bullets 35 Caliber (358 Diameter) 180 Grain Flat NoseMistered wrote:Speer # 9 manual shows a load using the 180 gr FN bullet intended for the .35 Remington for a .357 rifle load and the write-up says it shot well. I may have to give this a try sometime - if I can find the bullets!
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/54571 ... box-of-100
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Thats them! I may have to break down and order some but I hate mail ordering things! - Always have!Speer Hot-Cor Bullets 35 Caliber (358 Diameter) 180 Grain Flat Nose
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My point was why go to an oddball bullet designed for a different caliber, when the same weight bullet designed for .357 are readily available? My understanding when reading the post was a load using a .35 remington bullet to load a .357 magnum round.Mistered wrote:180 grain for .357 yes but for the .35 Remington most stores might have one box in 220 grain. Been looking for years every time I am in a store picking up other stuff hoping I’ll stumble on a box but I may have to order some.180 grain bullets intended for .357 are readily available.
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Re: 357 vs 30-30
Well technically it’s the same caliber (.358) but designed for a rifle cartridge. Being of a tapered, rifle design however it is a better design balistically and might offer some improvement in some rifles as a hunting round - potentially better accuracy also. If nothing else a fun reloading experiment.My point was why go to an oddball bullet designed for a different caliber
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OK, I can understand that. .357 does suffer from being such a blunt profile when trying to reach out past a 100 yds or more.Mistered wrote:Well technically it’s the same caliber (.358) but designed for a rifle cartridge. Being of a tapered, rifle design however it is a better design balistically and might offer some improvement in some rifles as a hunting round - potentially better accuracy also. If nothing else a fun reloading experiment.My point was why go to an oddball bullet designed for a different caliber
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Yea been wanting to try this for years if I ever stumbled on a box of the 180 .35 Rem bullets. Nothing I would ever spend the energy on mail ordering a box since I cant find them locally but who knows - I might just do it one time!OK, I can understand that. .357 does suffer from being such a blunt profile when trying to reach out past a 100 yds or more.