Moving up from 22LR

[richg87]

Well, I pulled the trigger and purchased the H015B 357/38 this morning. I was surprised they still had in stock. Beautiful gun! I went from the register to the range. No recoil shooting 38spl. I shot high and to the right. I didn't have any tools to adjust the sights. I shot from 15 - 25 yards. First 5 shots grouped pretty good. The further out put me closer to the bullseye.

[GFK]

Congratulations! I am taking it that the rear sight is dovetailed? So, you will probably have to tap for adjustments. It might be best to shoot 357 before you make any adjustments. Unless, you are planning not to shoot any 357s out of it. There may be a difference of POI of the two rounds, which there probably will be. For me, I made my adjustments based on 357s POI. Shooting 38s is just a bonus for me. At any rate, happy shooting!

[markiver54]

Very nice! Congratulations.
My BBS 357 likes 50 yards. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I read that the tragectory naturally rises some in the arc before falling which would explain better results farther away. Have fun with it!

[Vaquero]

Good lookin rifle, how long are those barrels?

RP

[richg87]

Congratulations! I am taking it that the rear sight is dovetailed? So, you will probably have to tap for adjustments. It might be best to shoot 357 before you make any adjustments. Unless, you are planning not to shoot any 357s out of it. There may be a difference of POI of the two rounds, which there probably will be. For me, I made my adjustments based on 357s POI. Shooting 38s is just a bonus for me. At any rate, happy shooting!

Thanks GFK! I thought I was going to have to tap the rear sight but just read in the manual there is a small screw on the side of the rear site that you can turn to adjust for left and right. Looks like another screw to right of the diamond to adjust height. I'll adjust both screws next time at the range.

[richg87]

Vaquero.....thanks! Beautiful rifle. The barrel is 22" and the overall length is 37.5"

[GFK]

Very nice! Congratulations.
My BBS 357 likes 50 yards. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I read that the tragectory naturally rises some in the arc before falling which would explain better results farther away. Have fun with it!

That is my understanding as well Markiver54, which I have confirmed by shooting at 25, 50, 100 and 200 yards (with .357 and 30-30 respectively).

P.S.
Below are a couple of targets at different ranges. I wanted to get an idea of accuracy at point blank range, which I am happy with. But, I still want to work on consistency.

H009 with peep:

H009-Peep.jpg

336W with scope:

336W-4X.JPG

[Rifletom]

richg87, you weren't messing around! Nice rifle. Hope you'll be able to get more ammo till you handload. Enjoy that Henry!

[richg87]

Thanks Rifletom!

[220]

Very nice! Congratulations.
My BBS 357 likes 50 yards. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I read that the tragectory naturally rises some in the arc before falling which would explain better results farther away. Have fun with it!

No
From the moment it leaves a barrel a bullet is dropping it is always an arc with the amount of drop increasing as velocity drops.

Sights are always higher than the bore and angle slightly down in relation to the bore. If they were parallel to the bore the bullet would leave the barrel below the sights and then get progressively lower than the sights the further it travels.
Angling the sights slightly down means when they are level the barrel is slightly elevated, in other words the bullet always leaves the barrel being fired upwards in relation to the sights, The arc of the bullet means it will cross the sight line twice after it leaves the barrel in most cases.

So bullet is always dropping but sights give the impression it rises before it drops because they are not parallel with the barrel.
Think about open sights, you raise the rear sight to increase the sight in distance, raising the rear sight means you need to elevate the barrel further to align the front and rear sight, you are doing nothing to the bullet but you are increasing the angle it is fired at in relation to the sights.

[BigAl52]

Nice rifle rich. Congrats hope you enjoy the single shot

[GFK]

Very nice! Congratulations.
My BBS 357 likes 50 yards. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I read that the tragectory naturally rises some in the arc before falling which would explain better results farther away. Have fun with it!

No
From the moment it leaves a barrel a bullet is dropping it is always an arc with the amount of drop increasing as velocity drops.

Sights are always higher than the bore and angle slightly down in relation to the bore. If they were parallel to the bore the bullet would leave the barrel below the sights and then get progressively lower than the sights the further it travels.
Angling the sights slightly down means when they are level the barrel is slightly elevated, in other words the bullet always leaves the barrel being fired upwards in relation to the sights, The arc of the bullet means it will cross the sight line twice after it leaves the barrel in most cases.

So bullet is always dropping but sights give the impression it rises before it drops because they are not parallel with the barrel.
Think about open sights, you raise the rear sight to increase the sight in distance, raising the rear sight means you need to elevate the barrel further to align the front and rear sight, you are doing nothing to the bullet but you are increasing the angle it is fired at in relation to the sights.

It seems to me that we may all be referring to the line of sight. Things do come back to earth. I am not a long range shooter. But, knowing how a bullet travels is how some shoot out to 1000 yards. Maybe, others words could have been used. Yet, the idea was present: the bullet will travel pass the POA twice, or there will be an arc with respect to line of sight.

[zara_puppy]

I got a .357 Single Shot last year just before deer season. Took two nice deer with it (and another with a Henry Single Shot .243). Point is the .357 is a fun critter to shoot. And being a Single Shot you’ll save ammo and possibly become a better shot.

And the others are right - the bullet passes through the line of sight twice. So if you set your sights to hit the center of the target at 100 yards the charts say you’ll be 1.5” high at 50 yards. So at about 30+ yards you’d be at the center of the target.

So if you set your sights like that and hunt white tails - there’s no guess work. Put the sights on the boiler room and squeeze the trigger. These figures are for standard “magnum” loads. Don’t know that I’d shoot a critter farther than 100 yards with a .357.

If you got it for plinking and target work, well, you made an outstanding choice. It’s just a super fun rifle. You’ll be able to bust clay pigeons at 100 yards all day long.