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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by Mags » Sat May 11, 2019 12:47 am

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Both the sighted and unsighted Long Rangers are supplied from the Henry factory with the Skinner two piece scope mounts. These should have been in the box with the rifle when you bought it. If they were not in the box contact HenryCS. http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5127

I have them installed on my Long Ranger and can still use the iron sights. If HenryCS won't send you a set, you can buy them from Skinner.
http://www.skinnersights.com/scope_mounts_31.html 2/3 of the way down the webpage.
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I just got a long ranger 308 win with iron sights, it didn't come with the weaver bases like the un-sighted versions do. Is there a base I can get that won't block my view of the iron sights if the scope is removed?
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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by Chemosabe23 » Sat May 11, 2019 2:05 am

My mistake on the type of scope mounts that are supposed to come with the rifles. But on the Henry website the long ranger with iron sights does not have scope mounts listed as an embellishment/extra as the non-sighted version does.

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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by Chemosabe23 » Sat May 11, 2019 2:06 am

I am contacting Henry's CS to see what to make of the situation.

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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by JEBar » Sat May 11, 2019 9:10 am

Chemosabe23 wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 12:08 am
I just got a long ranger 308 win with iron sights, it didn't come with the weaver bases like the un-sighted versions do. Is there a base I can get that won't block my view of the iron sights if the scope is removed?
below is a link to a YouTube video that presents a really good look at a scope mounted on a Long Ranger with iron sights .... with the sleek lines of that rifle, I can't envision see through scope mounts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXFNn5vkW18

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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by Mags » Sat May 11, 2019 11:45 am

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I looked that up too to check. Ya you are correct. They had to have recently changed that. It used to say "included" on both sighted and unsighted. It did when I bought my sighted LR couple months ago. As for the one-piece Henry offers it is too tall when you want to use the iron sights.

Initially I was hesitant to use the Skinners because I did not think they would not allow enough eye-relief adjustment. So I went shopping for a low profile aftermarket mount. Unfortunately I could not find a one piece with the right hole spacing. I have a mount with a grove down the middle on my .30-30 that would work with the iron sights of the LR, but I would have had to drill my own holes in the mount for the 2nd mount location. On my LR receiver the holes are 1/2 inch apart (center to center) with 2-1/8 inches between the centers of the inner pair of holes. With the rings and scope I have, the eye-relief turned out not to be problem using the Skinner mounts.
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My mistake on the type of scope mounts that are supposed to come with the rifles. But on the Henry website the long ranger with iron sights does not have scope mounts listed as an embellishment/extra as the non-sighted version does.
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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by Mags » Sat May 11, 2019 11:57 am

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Those are a nice one piece ring/mount pair that get that scope pretty low.
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JEBar wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 9:10 am
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Chemosabe23 wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 12:08 am
I just got a long ranger 308 win with iron sights, it didn't come with the weaver bases like the un-sighted versions do. Is there a base I can get that won't block my view of the iron sights if the scope is removed?
below is a link to a YouTube video that presents a really good look at a scope mounted on a Long Ranger with iron sights .... with the sleek lines of that rifle, I can't envision see through scope mounts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXFNn5vkW18
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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by BigAl52 » Sat May 11, 2019 12:08 pm

Ive not scoped any leverguns because Im lucky to still have decent eye sight. But to me it seems like trying to use both on the same gun would require the scope being mounted so hight that cheek weld might be an issue when using the scope. Just a thought.
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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by ESquared » Sat May 11, 2019 12:12 pm

It seems to me that the LR is designed for scopes, and the comb is higher to accommodate them without a cheek riser. That's been my experience, anyway. Had to put a riser on my 357 BBS, but the LR seems fine as-is. Your mileage may vary!
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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by Mags » Sat May 11, 2019 12:48 pm

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same experience as E^2. Also the iron sight on the LR fold over. So it's not in the way when using the scope. My scope is about as low as I can go with the Skinner 2-piece mounts and 0.75" rings. The scope objective is about 0.1" from the barrel.
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ESquared wrote:
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It seems to me that the LR is designed for scopes, and the comb is higher to accommodate them without a cheek riser. That's been my experience, anyway. Had to put a riser on my 357 BBS, but the LR seems fine as-is. Your mileage may vary!
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Ive not scoped any leverguns because Im lucky to still have decent eye sight. But to me it seems like trying to use both on the same gun would require the scope being mounted so hight that cheek weld might be an issue when using the scope. Just a thought.
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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by BigAl52 » Sat May 11, 2019 5:09 pm

Ya but I got the impression the OP wanted to have access irons while being able to use the scope to
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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by Mags » Sat May 11, 2019 9:48 pm

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Both OPs, spoke of using the iron sights without a scope.
Regardless of what base is attached to the rifle, the scope rings mounted atop the base block view of the iron sights. Quick attach/detach rings give the shooter the option of quickly switching between scope and iron sight use if the base is thin enough or iron sights are high enough without removing the base.
originator OP (aggiesam1983): "...has iron sights so that I could use it with or without a scope."
2nd OP (Chemosabe23): "...won't block my view of the iron sights if the scope is removed?"
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Ya but I got the impression the OP wanted to have access irons while being able to use the scope too
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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by BigAl52 » Sat May 11, 2019 10:03 pm

Ok well guess I read over it to fast and missed that. Im well aware of the quick detach I have some of those myself
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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by aggiesam1983 » Sun May 12, 2019 7:06 am

BigAl52 wrote:
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Ya but I got the impression the OP wanted to have access irons while being able to use the scope to
No sir, not at all. I was interested to see if others besides me had scoped theirs, some friends were giving me grief for scoping a lever action.

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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by ESquared » Sun May 12, 2019 8:07 am

None of your friends HERE would give you grief for that.
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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by BigAl52 » Sun May 12, 2019 9:20 am

aggiesam1983 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 7:06 am
BigAl52 wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 5:09 pm
Ya but I got the impression the OP wanted to have access irons while being able to use the scope to
No sir, not at all. I was interested to see if others besides me had scoped theirs, some friends were giving me grief for scoping a lever action.
Yes it was my mistake as Mags pointed that out also. I dont see a thing wrong with it. Especially if you are blessed with the eyes to be able to use the irons. I havent seen the irons on the LR so Im not sure how they would work for me. But if there the same ones the use on the SS I didnt care for those at all. Show youre friends the picture of the LR without the irons and ask them if they could shoot that one.
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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by ESquared » Sun May 12, 2019 9:27 am

It's called a "Long Ranger" for a reason. It would be the rare shooter, it seems to me, that could get its long range capabilities out of it without putting a scope on it.
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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by Mags » Sun May 12, 2019 11:57 am

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Ya, ditto what E^2 said!
ESquared wrote:
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None of your friends HERE would give you grief for that.
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... I was interested to see if others besides me had scoped theirs, some friends were giving me grief for scoping a lever action.
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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by Mags » Sun May 12, 2019 12:07 pm

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From the pictures of a single shot, the rear sight looks like it is the same one as on the sighted LR.

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... if there the same ones the use on the SS I didnt care for those at all. ...
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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by BigAl52 » Sun May 12, 2019 12:09 pm

Yup its the same sight I didnt care for it as I mentioned. But that just might be me.
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Re: Scope on a Long Ranger?

Post by Mags » Sun May 12, 2019 12:10 pm

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Yes. That is so.
ESquared wrote:
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It's called a "Long Ranger" for a reason. It would be the rare shooter, it seems to me, that could get its long range capabilities out of it without putting a scope on it.
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