Stock Warning

[steider]

Well, got my 44, 45-70 and 30-30 back. I can truly say they are in perfect shape. One thing I noticed is that the gripping is different on the 2018 models. The 30-30 is the one without the grip pattern on the bottom.

[Mags]

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Nice rifles! Nice knife photo bomb too.

[steider]

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Nice rifles! Nice knife photo bomb too.

Thank you. The knife. The steel and brass is all hand forged. The wood handle is even hand made. There is this young blacksmith that lives 40 miles from me in Monticello, New Mexico. He’s been forgeing since he was 7. He actually works and uses an old sheep shed on his property for his forgeing pits and equipment and uses wood from trees in his back yard. He sells at area events but does have a Etsy store. He was on the tv show Forged in Fire season 5 episode 25 and won the championship. The nicest kid you will ever meet. He literally makes the best knives I have ever used. Here’s his Etsy store if you like.

https://www.etsy.com/shop/asheandhammer

[Mags]

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Checked out his store. Looks like he has very well made knives. Saw in reviews one that looks very much like the one you have.

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Nice rifles! Nice knife photo bomb too.

Thank you. The knife. The steel and brass is all hand forged. The wood handle is even hand made. There is this young blacksmith that lives 40 miles from me in Montecillo, New Mexico. He’s been forgeing since he was 7. He actually works and uses an old sheep shed on his property for his forgeing pits and equipment and uses wood from trees in his back yard. He sells at area events but does have a Etsy store. He was on the tv show Forged in Fire season 5 episode 25 and won the championship. The nicest kid you will ever meet. He literally makes the best knives I have ever used. Here’s his Etsy store if you like.

https://www.etsy.com/shop/asheandhammer

[ESquared]

So, the 30-30 is the second one from the right? And it has checkering on the sides of the forend, but not the bottom? Seems like a lighter shade of wood as well. Interesting.

[steider]

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Checked out his store. Looks like he has very well made knives. Saw in reviews one that looks very much like the one you have.

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Nice rifles! Nice knife photo bomb too.

Thank you. The knife. The steel and brass is all hand forged. The wood handle is even hand made. There is this young blacksmith that lives 40 miles from me in Montecillo, New Mexico. He’s been forgeing since he was 7. He actually works and uses an old sheep shed on his property for his forgeing pits and equipment and uses wood from trees in his back yard. He sells at area events but does have a Etsy store. He was on the tv show Forged in Fire season 5 episode 25 and won the championship. The nicest kid you will ever meet. He literally makes the best knives I have ever used. Here’s his Etsy store if you like.

https://www.etsy.com/shop/asheandhammer

Met him in Truth or Consequences at the towns yearly fiesta back in May. I said to him that if he ever made a Bowie knife I would buy it.

[Yornoc3]

I like the full wrap around checkering of the forearm on the earlier models. It's too bad that Henry appears to be scaling it back, but it no doubt is quicker, probably more foolproof, and less costly, to do two panels on the sides, instead. Kinda hate to see that, though. I better get a 30-30 ordered, soon .

[steider]

I just sold all my Henry single shot rifles. I use to own the 45-70, 44 and 30-30. The three rifles combined has been in Henry warranty repair 7 times for stocks coming loose or cracks. That’s not counting the 20 gauge that I just sold also. The 20 gauge has been in warranty repair for the trigger slipping when pulled and a cracked stock. I noticed that when I slowly pulled the trigger on the 45-70 and 30-30 it would slip alittle. I couldn’t notice it when shooting but watching the trigger when I squeezed I could see it. I figured that the trigger is just going to get worse over time. Instead of more warranty repairs, I just decided to get rid of this headache. To tell you the truth, I feel releaved now. Sending 4 guns to warranty repair 9 times total in the last 7 months wasn’t fun. I own Henry lever actions for years with no issues. These single shot rifles are not the same quality that we are used to from Henry. I do hope Henry fixes or discontinues these rifles before it damages their name for years.

[GFK]

Interesting.

[ESquared]

Hmmm. I've been searching here for feedback from 20 ga. single-shot owners, and this is disappointing. Think I'll cool my jets and see what unfolds for others, whether here or elsewhere on the world wide web.

Sorry to hear of all your struggles, but it's hard to deny the pattern, given your heavy level of investment in the new platform.

I hope others who have gone down this path will keep us informed of their experiences over time.

[msnden]

Hi, I posted a question earlier entitled Question/advise single shot it concerns the stock issue, I also posted it here, however I shouldn't have. so if anyone is interested could you go over and read it and give me your advise? Thanks, I do have a note into Henry & am awaiting response, Thanks msn

[DanAtHenry]

Hi everyone,
I'd like to officially address these cracked stocks that some of you have been experiencing with our Single Shot models. First of all, I'd like to thank you all for choosing to own our rifles and shotguns. We certainly appreciate it, and we apologize for these types of issues that do not reflect our commitment to quality and reliability.

I spoke with our engineers and this is what we are doing.

1. Our lead engineer is implementing a higher torque on the stock bolt during assembly. We have seen a number of loose stocks, which can aid in breakage, acting as a slide hammer. When torqued properly we have never had a stock break.

2. We are changing the connection of the receiver to the stock. We're stating with the receiver since this is the fastest way to implement a change.

3. Once item #2 is complete, we'll be adding a second load bearing surface inside the buttstock by making a wood adjustment.

We are working with the Henry Repair department to develop a rework process for returns to eliminate stock breakage., which was started a few weeks ago.

This will not be an ongoing issue as we have found the process necessary to correct current issues and prevent it from happening in the future.

[CT_Shooter]

Welcome back, Dan.

Your participation here will be very helpful for so many of us. Thanks for the update.

Hi everyone,
I'd like to officially address these cracked stocks that some of you have been experiencing with our Single Shot models. First of all, I'd like to thank you all for choosing to own our rifles and shotguns. We certainly appreciate it, and we apologize for these types of issues that do not reflect our commitment to quality and reliability.

[Mags]

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Thanks Dan! Very much appreciate the inside story of what HenryUSA is doing to address this. For those of us who have torque drivers, what is the new higher torque setting spec for the stock bolt?

Hi everyone,
I'd like to officially address these cracked stocks that some of you have been experiencing with our Single Shot models. First of all, I'd like to thank you all for choosing to own our rifles and shotguns. We certainly appreciate it, and we apologize for these types of issues that do not reflect our commitment to quality and reliability.

I spoke with our engineers and this is what we are doing.

1. Our lead engineer is implementing a higher torque on the stock bolt during assembly. We have seen a number of loose stocks, which can aid in breakage, acting as a slide hammer. When torqued properly we have never had a stock break.

2. We are changing the connection of the receiver to the stock. We're stating with the receiver since this is the fastest way to implement a change.

3. Once item #2 is complete, we'll be adding a second load bearing surface inside the buttstock by making a wood adjustment.

We are working with the Henry Repair department to develop a rework process for returns to eliminate stock breakage., which was started a few weeks ago.

This will not be an ongoing issue as we have found the process necessary to correct current issues and prevent it from happening in the future.

[Yornoc3]

That's good to hear. I especially like the statement: "When torqued properly we have never had a stock break." That has been my gut feeling on this issue all along; after all, we have SXS shotguns with likely less bearing area than that robust wrist on the Henry single shots, that, with proper care, last forever - unless they get loose. When I disassemble my shotguns, I try to feel the degree of force it takes to loosen the stock bolt, and match it when I reassemble. Too tight is no good, either.

I've read in a response from Henry elsewhere regarding the hammer/trigger spring complaints, that Henry is also working on a redesign to improve (meaning lower) the trigger pull weight, and hammer cocking resistance as well. With the present design, in order to meet the saami specification for drop without discharge, the triggers have to be as they are. That begs the question of how did my two rifles make it out of there with 4 lbs trigger pulls? Just lucky, I guess . I'm not going to drop them onto a hard surface from four feet, six times, just to see if they pass. The Grainger spring modification as we've seen here will work for me, if my ordered 30-30 arrives with an 8 lb trigger. I don't plan to bounce a cocked, loaded rifle off a parking lot, in any event.
Edit: the drop test is actually from four feet to a hard surface from six different positions. That'll teach me to trust my memory .

[DanAtHenry]

For those of us who have torque drivers, what is the new higher torque setting spec for the stock bolt?

Good question. I'm checking with our engineers and will update here once I have an answer.

::EDIT:: The proper torque spec is 60 inch pounds.

[BigAl52]

Thanks for coming on board Dan and giving us some inside information. I hope you will visit more often and keep us informed of things going on with Henry. Its always good to have some inside information. The forum has grown quite a bit and with visits from factory people I cant help but think it will add to our growth.

[fortyshooter]

Wow! Very impressed with the Customer Service !

Any stock issues with the Lever Carbine rifles?

[DanAtHenry]

Wow! Very impressed with the Customer Service !

Any stock issues with the Lever Carbine rifles?

None whatsoever! Every now and then we have some stocks get damaged in transit because of rough handling, but those usually get turned around and sent back to us once they reach the distributor or the dealer.

[ESquared]

Thanks for the torque spec, Dan. Appreciate you addressing the group on this nagging issue.