Make it in 45 ACP please!

[fortyshooter]

Henry would sell a bunch of them in 45 ACP or even better in 10 mm! Wake up Henry!!!

[5shot]

I also would like one in .45 ACP because my 9mm really performs well but....Do you think they could do it with the blowback action?

[The Happy Kaboomer]

HI-Points are ALL blow back actions.........Make the bolt heavy enough and it could be chambered for 50 BMG

[Travlin]

Sell a bunch of 45 acp or 10 mm ? I wonder how many of us would buy one of each when there are multiple makers of those including the Hi Point 45 that has a street price of about $200.It goes bang when the trigger is pulled and hits what it's aimed at. I think that H.R.A. would be better off to consider a large frame revolver for the .45 ACP using the moon clips and it would also shoot .45 auto rim cartridges. I had a 1917 Colt and I made some super shot shells for it using 30-06 cases cut to cylinder length. Eat your heart out Taurus Judge.

[inspcalahan]

I'd be in for both, if they perform as reliably as my 9mm has been with a suppressor. HenryUSA..are you reading this forum! This could be the .45acp PCC that everyone is looking for!

[Joe.45]

I want a LEVER .45 ACP… I would be willing to put a down payment TODAY towards a Big Boy in .45 ACP, he’ll, I’ll take 2, a Case Hardened and an All-Weather. Are u listening, HENRY, I’ll take 2.

[zaitcev]

I also would like one in .45 ACP because my 9mm really performs well but....Do you think they could do it with the blowback action?

The Ruger LC 45 uses a blowback action. It also gives an idea how heavy that's going to be, by comparing it with the Ruger LC in 5.7, which generally uses the bolt weight in the same ballpark as a 9mm.

Weaponsguild forum has a sticky about the mass of the blowback bolt for various calibers, and the numbers required for safe operation are significantly lower than we came to expect by looking at the existing guns (e.g. Thompson, M3, etc.). That is what allowed Oly's AR45 to work. The question is the longevity and comfort.

Henry is well positioned to up the mass of the moving parts, because the blowback mass of the Homesteader is in the handguard. It's not like Ruger PC, where it's all behind the breech and they already use a tungsten weight.

Who knows, maybe the plan to make a .45/10 explains why the charging handle slot on the Homesteader is unnecessarily long by about 8mm.

The profitability of the Homesteader family will determine if Henry will be inclined to offer additional chamberings. My tracking of serial numbers show that they broke through 15,000 produced. So it's a bit of a modest success (for comparison, by the 2023 Ruger made about 180,000 PC platform guns - Carbines and Chargers). But I cannot know what the production costs for Henry are.

[COSteve]

Interesting talk with Henry's CS today concerning my suggestion that if a 10 mm proved to be unworkable engineering wise in the blow back design of the Homesteader that they might also consider one in .45 acp with it's lower chamber pressure.

The woman responded with, "Henry does not and will not consider a .45 acp anything."

When I asked why, she said that it's not something they would discuss but they will not consider a Homesteader in .45 acp.

[GunnyGene]

Interesting talk with Henry's CS today concerning my suggestion that if a 10 mm proved to be unworkable engineering wise in the blow back design of the Homesteader that they might also consider one in .45 acp with it's lower chamber pressure.

The woman responded with, "Henry does not and will not consider a .45 acp anything."

When I asked why, she said that it's not something they would discuss but they will not consider a Homesteader in .45 acp.

I wonder if they made a deal with Ruger to not compete with the LC in .45 and 10mm

[zaitcev]

Interesting talk with Henry's CS today concerning my suggestion that if a 10 mm proved to be unworkable engineering wise in the blow back design of the Homesteader that they might also consider one in .45 acp with it's lower chamber pressure.

Companies that made both had to make heavier actions in .45 ACP than in 10mm. The pressure of 10mm is higher, but the case diameter is larger in .45, which balances the amount of the bolt thrust somewhat. In addition, the bullet spends more time in the barrel, leading to more energy harvested. It's a little countrer-intuitive. Fortunately, the difference is very small. Ruger LC weighs the same in .45ACP and 10mm, although 10mm has thicker barrel walls, so the bolt is marginally lighter. The documented mass of Olympic bolts was 16.3 oz in 45 and 15.5 oz in 10mm.

[BigAl52]

I bet 5shot is down at his local gun store trying to get one of those new Rugers in 10mm. What about it 5shot?

[DsGrouse]

I also would like one in .45 ACP because my 9mm really performs well but....Do you think they could do it with the blowback action?

My bnt ghm 45 is blowback

[zaitcev]

I want a LEVER .45 ACP…

Design-wise, Henry may be able to adapt Supreme to some kind of square magazine, or perhaps even Glock, assuming Supreme in rifle calibers is a success. But they will not risk the liability of putting a .45 ACP into a tube magazine. That is despite certain adventurous companies selling 9mm and 45ACP conversions of Marlins and 1873. The issue is that although nothing will happen under normal circumstances, it only takes one idiot who cannot install the primer right to start a ruinous lawsuit.

They may be convinced to look at a Big Boy in 10mm or 30SC, because bullets are always flat-nosed in these calibers.

[The Happy Kaboomer]

FIRST.......Henry has to re-design the UGLY out of their revolver..........AND add adjustable sights........Only then.....Would I consider one.

[COSteve]

FIRST.......Henry has to re-design the UGLY out of their revolver..........AND add adjustable sights........Only then.....Would I consider one.

We're talking about a Homesteader in .45 acp in this thread, not a revolver (hence it's placement under the Henry Homesteader forum).

[Travlin]

I just saw that one of the Italian old west gun companies has made an 1873 lever action in 9 mm. I am sure that cheaper ammo has a lot do do with it.

[zaitcev]

I just saw that one of the Italian old west gun companies has made an 1873 lever action in 9 mm. I am sure that cheaper ammo has a lot do do with it.

Do you have a reference to it? I haven't heard of either Rossi, Uberti, or anyone more obscure make one. The only 1873 in 9mm that I know is Taylor:
https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/tc73-ri ... tuned.html

Taylor is known for tuning and re-selling Uberti, so perhaps that's confusing. The 9mm project is their attempt to jump-start an American production line.

[BigAl52]

Be a cold day in h*ll before Id pay 2100 for a 9mm levergun

[5shot]

I bet 5shot is down at his local gun store trying to get one of those new Rugers in 10mm. What about it 5shot?

Al....My self imposed gun buying rule is "NO NEW CALIBERS". My wife is also onboard with that rule! I keep reading about the 10mm being a top choice for bear protection and it's almost as powerful as a .41 magnum. SEW....If grizzlies come to Wisconsin I'll skip the 10mm and strap on one of my .41's.

I do have to confess to asking the LGS if they had any in yet.

[BigAl52]

For me it wouldn’t be new as I own a 10mm 610 4 inch Smith and Wesson. I looked at the Ruger but Id need to buy one in another state right now as the only one available has a 30 round magazine. It did peak my interest though as I am a 10 mm fan