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by Vaquero » Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:36 pm
jstanfield103 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:28 pm
I would think Henry could do it cheap. I would Love the cheaper 9mm ammo. I have a Henry in .357 the Classic BB and a Steel Carbine in 44 that I am finishing up the way I want it. But the cheaper 9mm would be awesome just to plink with and what ever. No recoil, magazine tube would hold more than the .38 and .357 and a heck of a lot cheaper. Heck already talk myself into buying it as soon as they make one. One day they will.
No recoil with 357 in a long gun.
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by Cannonball » Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:36 pm
I wish they would do a S&W 460 mag that would also shoot 454 Casull and 45 LC.
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by jstanfield103 » Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:35 am
Vaquero wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:36 pm
jstanfield103 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:28 pm
I would think Henry could do it cheap. I would Love the cheaper 9mm ammo. I have a Henry in .357 the Classic BB and a Steel Carbine in 44 that I am finishing up the way I want it. But the cheaper 9mm would be awesome just to plink with and what ever. No recoil, magazine tube would hold more than the .38 and .357 and a heck of a lot cheaper. Heck already talk myself into buying it as soon as they make one. One day they will.
No recoil with 357 in a long gun.
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Correct but even half of that with 9mm, just makes sense to me and don't know why they have not made that as of yet. Probably already on thier minds though.
Cannonball,
Definitely would also like that.
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by Cannonball » Fri Feb 24, 2023 11:40 am
jstanfield103 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:35 am
Vaquero wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:36 pm
jstanfield103 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:28 pm
I would think Henry could do it cheap. I would Love the cheaper 9mm ammo. I have a Henry in .357 the Classic BB and a Steel Carbine in 44 that I am finishing up the way I want it. But the cheaper 9mm would be awesome just to plink with and what ever. No recoil, magazine tube would hold more than the .38 and .357 and a heck of a lot cheaper. Heck already talk myself into buying it as soon as they make one. One day they will.
No recoil with 357 in a long gun.
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Correct but even half of that with 9mm, just makes sense to me and don't know why they have not made that as of yet. Probably already on thier minds though.
Cannonball,
Definitely would also like that.
I’m glad some others also would appreciate an affordable 460 S&W lever rifle. Bighorn Armory currently makes it to the tune of $5,100.00 and that’s not affordable to everyone. The 460 S&W in a Bighorn will send a 300 grain bullet at 2,200 FPS and a 200 grain at 3,000 FPS. That’s 45/70 power level in most factory ammunition. It’s also a straight wall cartridge that’s short enough at 1.8” to be legal in any of the straight wall cartridge only hunting states. Which brings me to this... why do we need to invent an entirely new cartridge (.360 Buckhammer) to do something the 460 S&W in a lever gun could do with more versatility by shooting .460 S&W, 454 Casull and 45 LC? I guess I don’t get it. I would be much more accepting of the new cartridge if the firearms and and ammunition manufacturers where caught up on current production. Adding something new only makes the current short supply situation worse and also drives up cost due to more demand and less availability.
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by Redthies » Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:14 pm
I honestly don’t see Henry doing this. The new Homesteader (which I personally have less than zero interest in) is their 9mm carbine. One reason they make .357 and .44 levers is to companion with .357 and .44 wheel guns. Obvious market there. The 9mm HS can take Glock and S&W mags to companion with those companies pistols. Also an obvious market.
Doing a 9mm lever makes very little sense in those terms, and as much as I think it would great to have a really cheap to shoot centerfire lever, I’d bet the farm Henry won’t ever build one.
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by Travlin » Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:30 am
The bighorn rifle is a Winchester 92/86 type of design with the double locking bolts where the bolt and the receiver are close together. That is a lot stronger than the Henry/Marlin rifles with there one lock up in the inside. To me the only H.R.A. rifle that could handle those cartridges and the 50 S&W loads would be the Long Ranger. That model already is chambered for rifle cartridges so why down grade it to the lesser shorter handgun loads?
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by Cannonball » Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:57 am
Travlin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:30 am
The bighorn rifle is a Winchester 92/86 type of design with the double locking bolts where the bolt and the receiver are close together. That is a lot stronger than the Henry/Marlin rifles with there one lock up in the inside. To me the only H.R.A. rifle that could handle those cartridges and the 50 S&W loads would be the Long Ranger. That model already is chambered for rifle cartridges so why down grade it to the lesser shorter handgun loads?
My above post specifically mentions the straight wall cartridge only states. All the current caliber offering in the Long Ranger would not be legal to use in any of them. I have a friend in Ohio and sometimes go up there to hunt. I could take my 45/70 there and be fine. If we went across state lines to Michigan, the 45/70 wouldn’t be legal there as they require the case length (not including the bullet) to be 1.8” or less.
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by Vaquero » Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:17 am
Cannonball wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:57 am
Travlin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:30 am
The bighorn rifle is a Winchester 92/86 type of design with the double locking bolts where the bolt and the receiver are close together. That is a lot stronger than the Henry/Marlin rifles with there one lock up in the inside. To me the only H.R.A. rifle that could handle those cartridges and the 50 S&W loads would be the Long Ranger. That model already is chambered for rifle cartridges so why down grade it to the lesser shorter handgun loads?
My above post specifically mentions the straight wall cartridge only states. All the current caliber offering in the Long Ranger would not be legal to use in any of them. I have a friend in Ohio and sometimes go up there to hunt. I could take my 45/70 there and be fine. If we went across state lines to Michigan, the 45/70 wouldn’t be legal there as they require the case length (not including the bullet) to be 1.8” or less.
Well, Henry has that new Buckhammer coming out soon, not sure why it's taking so long.
Guess they are stuck on this damn 9mm thingy.
It's straight walled with a case length of 1.8", and supposedly in at least three different models
I'm not really all that interested in it either, but
would entertain it way before this silly mm thing.
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by jstanfield103 » Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:25 am
Pretty good discussion all the way around. Fun and interesting to read everyone's take.
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by Cannonball » Sat Feb 25, 2023 3:06 pm
Vaquero wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:17 am
Cannonball wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:57 am
Travlin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:30 am
The bighorn rifle is a Winchester 92/86 type of design with the double locking bolts where the bolt and the receiver are close together. That is a lot stronger than the Henry/Marlin rifles with there one lock up in the inside. To me the only H.R.A. rifle that could handle those cartridges and the 50 S&W loads would be the Long Ranger. That model already is chambered for rifle cartridges so why down grade it to the lesser shorter handgun loads?
My above post specifically mentions the straight wall cartridge only states. All the current caliber offering in the Long Ranger would not be legal to use in any of them. I have a friend in Ohio and sometimes go up there to hunt. I could take my 45/70 there and be fine. If we went across state lines to Michigan, the 45/70 wouldn’t be legal there as they require the case length (not including the bullet) to be 1.8” or less.
Well, Henry has that new Buckhammer coming out soon, not sure why it's taking so long.
Guess they are stuck on this damn 9mm thingy.
It's straight walled with a case length of 1.8", and supposedly in at least three different models
I'm not really all that interested in it either, but
would entertain it way before this silly mm thing.
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Probably because they are a couple years behind on getting caught up with the current production models.
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by Travlin » Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:37 pm
I agree about the "silly" 9 mm thing. If one is looking for an inexpensive rifle to shoot , then stick with a rim fire . As one who has shot my own loaded ammo for over 50 years I can't get excited about a rifle that scatters centerfire brass all over the landscape. Maybe a single shot in the 9 caliber would be more easily put in the inventory for distribution to those that are interested.
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by Joe.45 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:41 pm
Oh that’s easy for me… I want a LEVER .45 ACP… I would be willing to put a down payment TODAY towards a Big Boy in .45 ACP, he’ll, I’ll take 2, a Case Hardened and an All-Weather. Are u listening, HENRY, I’ll take 2.
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by Handloader » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:44 pm
jstanfield103 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 6:42 pm
I wish Henry would make a Big Boy Steel in 9mm. I think that would be a cheap rifle to shoot in todays market place. It sure would be a nice easy shooting rifle. I know it can be done and they are just the ones to do it. Better ammo availability and price.
Or 40 S&W/10mm
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by North Idaho Shooter » Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:26 pm
Not sure what a 9mm runs at pressure-wise offhand, but I wouldn't think it would be more than a 44 mag. I do think the more pointed bullets would be an issue.
As for me, I just wish Henry would make the 41 Magnum available in a side loading gate model. That shouldn't take much work at all.
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by BigAl52 » Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:19 pm
North Idaho Shooter wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:26 pm
Not sure what a 9mm runs at pressure-wise offhand, but I wouldn't think it would be more than a 44 mag. I do think the more pointed bullets would be an issue.
As for me, I just wish Henry would make the 41 Magnum available in a side loading gate model. That shouldn't take much work at all.
The 41 mag is the Rodney Dangerfield of calibers. It gets no respect. That being said I dont think you will ever see a Henry sidegate in 41 mag. There is a chance from what I read that Ruger will make a Marlin in 41 mg.
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by BigAl52 » Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:42 pm
Travlin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:37 pm
I agree about the "silly" 9 mm thing. If one is looking for an inexpensive rifle to shoot , then stick with a rim fire . As one who has shot my own loaded ammo for over 50 years I can't get excited about a rifle that scatters centerfire brass all over the landscape. Maybe a single shot in the 9 caliber would be more easily put in the inventory for distribution to those that are interested.
I get your drift on the 9mm thing. I have a 40. I dont shoot my PC in 40 cause its cheap I shoot it cause its fun. I might throw brass all over he** but sometimes I dont even pick it up. Cause I know that when I go to the range down here anyway someone else might have shot the same caliber and it went into a nice little pile for easy pickens. I pick that up. 40 Brass is cheap and you can usually always find 40 ammo reasonable. Reasonable enough to have fun bustin up targets or makin steel swing. A 22 has a hard time swingin a 6 inch steel plate. Just sayin
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by jstanfield103 » Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:10 am
All things considered, I still think Henry will one day make the 9mm and probably the 45 acp. like in the video. Especially after ready all the replies here. I bet they are thinking about it. That would put them first on the list to have a traditional lever action style in those calibers.
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by 5shot » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:23 am
There's no doubt the .22 is the simplest way to shoot targets but my hearing isn't very good anymore and the CLANG of a 147 gr. cast bullet on the 50 yard swinger is far more satisfying than the faint "tink" of a .22.

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by popdad » Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:39 pm
I'm surprised that Henry hasn't made a 30-30 in a trapper model with the 16.5 inch barrel and a large loop in the Big Boy. Round or octagon barrel and put a skinner Rear peep sight or leave the open sights on it. Rossi has brought one out. Henry have all the parts with them making the Big Boy in 30-30.
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by fortyshooter » Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:51 am
popdad wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:39 pm
I'm surprised that Henry hasn't made a 30-30 in a trapper model with the 16.5 inch barrel and a large loop in the Big Boy. Round or octagon barrel and put a skinner Rear peep sight or leave the open sights on it. Rossi has brought one out. Henry have all the parts with them making the Big Boy in 30-30.
Ol' Rossi catching up!