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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by tx gunrunner » Sun Aug 07, 2016 3:39 am

RanchRoper wrote:Nice looking revolver. How come you didn't shoot it more often?
This was the 1st gun my buddy engraved and it is a 36 cal and when I shot the USIMLC I shot a 1858 Remy in 44 cal in the matches which out shot the 36 cal guns . My 45 ROA below in not legal to shoot in USIMLC matches for 2 reasons is adjustable sights and it is not a replica of anything and this was the 1st time out with that gun too .. The pair of 1873 muzzle loader I got to shoot SASS/CAS matches and I found out they where illegal to shoot in matches too . I don't know why :evil: :evil:
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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by PT7 » Sun Aug 07, 2016 9:51 am

Very nice choice, RR. And yes, it does seem to fit well. The spurs provide real authenticity! :lol:

It would be interesting to find out the differences in the Army model and Navy model. They look really similar in the web site marketing photos. Anyway, we'll look forward to your posts and Range Reports whenever you bring home the Open Top Army.

RanchRoper wrote:This is the Uberti I was interested in at the gun show. 1872 Open Top Army, late model. 45 Colt. It felt awesome in my hand. Beautiful detailing and fit and finish. There were others there too, 1860 Richards Mason conversion, 1851 Navy. All by Uberti Cimarron. But the 1872 was really unique and extra cool. Reviews on Google look ok, one review said it's "old, slow, obsolete and a ton of fun to shoot!" Sounds like my kind of revolver!
Viggo Mortenson's character "Everett Hitch" carries one in Appaloosa. Picked up a Cimarron catalog too. Eye candy! One other cool bit of info, these revolvers were originally chambered in 44 Henry rimfire to accompany the Henry rifle. So it all seems to fit!

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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by RanchRoper » Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:37 am

You bet. A local guy here is a CAS shooter and a Cimarron dealer and he stocks several models including the 1872 Open Top. The grips are smaller on the Navy, and it has brass back strap and trigger guard. It's tagged as the early model 1871. The one I like is the late model with 1 piece walnut grip and steel back strap, trigger guard. Doing a little research, the 1871-72 open tops were not percussion conversions but Colts first true cartridge revolver. The US Army did not want open tops, so Colts guys scrambled back to the drawing board and designed the 1873 Peacemaker. Production abruptly halted on the open tops. However, lots of cowboys carried open tops because they were $6 and the Peacemaker was $15. If the Army had wanted the open tops, would THAT be the famous old west revolver today?

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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by CT_Shooter » Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:24 pm

RanchRoper wrote: Doing a little research, the 1871-72 open tops were not percussion conversions but Colts first true cartridge revolver.
I also read that they were made to use Henry's .44 rimfire cartridge. I think that's pretty cool, too.

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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by RanchRoper » Sun Aug 07, 2016 1:55 pm

Yes, that's cool.

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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by RanchRoper » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:24 pm

Here's my dilemma: I spent quite a bit of time handling both of these revolvers on the weekend.
- 1872 open top
- 1860 Richards Mason transition.
Both in 45 Colt. The 72 is a 7.5" barrel. The RM is an 8" barrel. The rear sight on the RM is a notch in the hammer while the 72 is ahead of the cylinder.

Both of these Cimarron revolvers were outstanding in fit and finish. Reviews for both are very good as shooters.

:?: tough decision!!
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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by RanchRoper » Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:24 pm

Another good pic of the 1872 showing the sights.
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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by CT_Shooter » Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:30 pm

RanchRoper, I just watched two youtube videos on each of these revolvers and they are surely beautiful reproductions! But, I came away thinking the rear sight on the older Colt 1860 Richards Mason Transition, which is a notch in the fully cocked hammer, would be difficult to master. For that reason, the newer Colt 1872 Open Top would be my choice between these two revolvers.
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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by RanchRoper » Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:34 pm

Agreed. I was sold on the 1872 but hung up on the 8" barrel on the other one. I did try to sight both and the hammer notch was not old-eyes friendly.
I've since spoke to the dealer who shoots CAS and he said same thing. Thanks for your input.

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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by PT7 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:13 pm

I was actually surprised that a different revolver came into the picture; I thought you were quite settled on the 1872 open top model. But then I realized there are just too many choices out there!! ;)

The "other good picture" you posted of the 1872 was the same one I saw on their web site. That's the one that was really a cool view of the sights.

Although I haven't looked at any videos as CT_Shooter did, I'd agree with him. My perspective is only from looking at your comparison pictures of the two revolvers, and my own experience with my first SP101 3.02"/.357 Magnum revolver. That revolver had a fixed rear sight, which is a notch in the top strap just in front of the closed hammer. For the life of me I had the most difficult time getting any reasonable sight acquisition. As much as I liked that SP101, I let it go. My current SP101 is a 4.25-inch "kit gun" with a rear adjustable rectangle slot sight. It works quite well with my elder eyes. :D

All that hooey said, I agree with CT-Shooter. I'd go with the sights on the 1872. That is a great-looking sight configuration on that revolver.

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RanchRoper wrote:Agreed. I was sold on the 1872 but hung up on the 8" barrel on the other one. I did try to sight both and the hammer notch was not old-eyes friendly.
I've since spoke to the dealer who shoots CAS and he said same thing. Thanks for your input.

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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by RanchRoper » Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:04 pm

They have a Cimarron 1872 Open Top set aside for me, so the decision is made. It is much more suited to what I want. I just like to check all avenues before I plunk down a bunch of cash. Opinions from you guys are appreciated, that's why I put it out there. Thanks!

...and you're right; there are a LOT of nice revolvers in that Cimarron line up!!!

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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by RetiredSeabee » Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:28 pm

Congrats on nailing it down to the one that you want. Looking forward to a range report.
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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by RanchRoper » Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:35 pm

Me too! My handgun license is finally in "processing" stage on the RCMP website, so hopefully in the mail someday soon...

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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by PT7 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:30 pm

Thumbs up on your final choice of the 1872.
And ditto on RSb for the Range Report.
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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by RanchRoper » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:01 pm

My handgun license showed up today!!!! I actually have it 3 months to the day since I passed the tests! :D

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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by CT_Shooter » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:18 pm

RanchRoper wrote:My handgun license showed up today!!!! I actually have it 3 months to the day since I passed the tests! :D
Fantastic! That's great news! Your range reports are about to get a new and super exciting addition! I can't wait. :D
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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by RanchRoper » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:23 pm

Ya I'm pretty excited about it. Been talking to the Cimarron guy and I'll try to get out to see him later this week or early next.

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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by Deadwood Dutch » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:31 pm

That's great news!

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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by White Squirrel » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:05 pm

Congratulations, RR! Looking forward to seeing what you get and as CT_Shooter said, this is going to open up new worlds for your range reports.

Oh, and better stock up on that .45 Colt ammo! :D
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Re: Handled some revolvers today

Post by RanchRoper » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:07 pm

I hear ya, I only have about 500 rounds stashed away right now... :)

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