Some BP questions

[RanchRoper]

Track of the Wolf got back to me. They have the correct nipple in stock in both hardened and stainless. 1/4-28.

[BigAl52]

Good deal. If you get a nipple wrench there some have a removable top that has a nipple pic in it. It goes down thru a hole in the handle and screws in. I have one for that reason very handy to clear that tiny hole in the nipple.

[JEBar]

Here are a couple of patches. Found them about 30 or so feet out in front of my shooting position.

you could recycle them .... lube them a bit and shoot'um again ....

[RanchRoper]

Cleaned out a local shop today. Scored 500 percussion #11 CCI caps.
My track of the wolf order should be here this week. Extra nipples and wrench. Will do lots of shooting over Christmas.

[BigAl52]

You have enough now you can play with the Fanner 50 again

[RanchRoper]

Later this week I think. Friday.

[RanchRoper]

That Ballistol liquid seems to be pretty good stuff. It sure shined up the inside of the barrel on my Frontier. Some guys on another forum talked about rust with it, but 90%+ of what I read is that people love it for their firearms. Anyhow, so far so good. After a couple of outings I have a little cleaning routine down that works for me.

[BigAl52]

As much as you shoot and like to shoot you may never see any issues but I would keep an eye on it none the less. I use EzzOx in mine with no issues so far.

[JEBar]

Some guys on another forum talked about rust with it, but 90%+ of what I read is that people love it for their firearms.

interesting .... collectively, our family has a fairly large collection and it does an excellent job for us

[RanchRoper]

Cleaning guns today. I have not shot the ML since the last time I shot and gave a thorough cleaning but I thought what the heck, I'll clean it again anyway. The ML is the only rifle I have used Ballistol on. Ran a pure Ballistol wet patch down the barrel as the last step before I put the rifle away a couple of weeks ago muzzle end down like suppose to. Keep all the stuff from dripping down into the breech.

Now, I only shoot Triple 7 and do not use water to clean. I use Hoppes. I experimented with Hoppes and cleaning burned Triple 7 off several different pieces of iron and steel and it cleans it right up every time. There are a few guys I have discussed this with and they use it too and have not had any issues with it.

Anyhow, plugged off the nipple, and gave the barrel a good sloshing & plunging with a bore mop and Hoppes. Drained it out, and went to dry patches to clean it out of the barrel. Good so far. Used my little .22 copper brush with a dry patch on it to get into the little patent breech way down there. Pulled it out and guess what? Rust. Just a little streak or two but I know rust when I see it. Cleaned it all out with the brush, little bore mop, patches, and then pulled the nipple off, blew Hoppes through there, blew air threw it, then blew alcohol through it until every nook and cranny was clean. More air until all dry and then lubed the barrel with a G96 patch like all the other guns. Will keep a close eye on it.

I am going to burn some powder on steel again and leave it for a few days, then clean it and see if it rusts anything. But I don't think it's the powder. I think it's the Ballistol. Checked my other guns that have been shot and cleaned countless times and no rust anywhere. They look like new. Several longtime ML shooters on another forum have gone off Ballistol due to rust they say. So I'll stay away from it and see how things progress. Will keep you posted, but if you are using it, check your guns closely. Hopefully it's working fine for you.

[JEBar]

info appreciated .... we use Ballistol but haven't had an occasion to use it on a black powder firearm .... please keep reporting your observations

[RanchRoper]

I could be wrong, but time will tell.

Just ordered 2 more jugs of T7 powder as well, just to get ahead of shortages....

[BigAl52]

I use Eezox and Amsoil. Just heard of to many issues with Ballistol

[RanchRoper]

Now I am itching for the Skinner ladder sight to show up, I really want to try it out at the range. I am also talking to the guys that run our range to see if they are interested in hosting a BP rendezvous this year, assuming the flu goes away....

[fortyshooter]

Ballistol all I have used on all my guns and haven't seen any rust. Is it just with BP guns?

[RanchRoper]

Don’t know.

[RanchRoper]

Getting some info and a price on this Pedersoli beauty....maybe mid year.....


https://www.davide-pedersoli.com/scheda ... model.html

[BigAl52]

Nice just a FYI. I have a Kentucky Pistol in 54 caliber. Bought it off the other forum. The trigger on it sucked and had to have it worked over. Maybe you have someone close up there that will look at them.

[RanchRoper]

Just checked the ML again after cleaning on Friday using no Ballistol. No rust, nothing on the patches at all.

Just to be sure, I plugged the nipple and poured some TC#13 black powder & BP substitute cleaner down the bore. This stiff is white liquid. Gets pretty good reviews from some guys but I don't really know it so was not using it much. Anyhow, I let it sit in the bore for 10 minutes or so. Thought if there was T7 fouling that the Hoppes wasn't getting this stuff might. Then plunged the bore with the rod and bore mop for awhile to see if anything loosens up. Poured out the cleaner and it came out as white as it went in. Dry patched the barrel and checked it with high power LED. Shiny metal all the way. Blew air though the nipple, dry patched a bunch more times including the little patent breech, and there was not a speck of anything on the patches. They looked like they could be dried out and reused. G96 patch down the barrel one last time and call it a day.

I am confident that I am getting all T7 powder fouling out. With Hoppes 9. Will check again in a few days and expect to see no rust. Jury is out on the Ballistol, but if after a few days there's no rust with no Ballistol used, I guess I'll have to find some other uses for the 4 little bottles I have.

[RanchRoper]

Well, have to eat my words. Checked the rifle last night and brown crap on the patch. Looked like either rust or fouling still in there. So the Hoppes is not cutting it.

So I cowboyed up today, took a deep breath and used boiling water. Water, alcohol, dried with hair dryer and patches, then lubed with oil. We'll see but I cannot see how anything could be left in there after that. If it works, then water is the way to go.
And maybe have to take back all the bad things I thought about Ballistol. Might even give that another shot as finishing lube.