I was wrong

Post by **ditto1958** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:24 pm

Darn. That was painful to say.

Seriously, awhile back on the other Henry forum, I posted about how I was having trouble shooting well with my H001. After considering whether it was me, the sights, a scope I installed for a bit, the ammo, the wind, bad lighting... I concluded that it was th he trigger that was causing me trouble.

After a trip to the range today, I have decided I was wrong. It's just me. I just need to shoot better.

There. I said it.

(I don't really feel any better, though).

Post by **Neon Horse** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:12 pm

There there.

You were right for saying you were wrong.

Post by **ditto1958** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:10 pm

I still want to tinker with that thing, though. I'm thinking what I really need is to get a Skinner sight for it.

Post by **PT7** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:30 pm

ditto1958 wrote:Darn. That was painful to say.

Seriously, awhile back on the other Henry forum, I posted about how I was having trouble shooting well with my H001. After considering whether it was me, the sights, a scope I installed for a bit, the ammo, the wind, bad lighting... I concluded that it was th he trigger that was causing me trouble.

After a trip to the range today, I have decided I was wrong. It's just me. I just need to shoot better.

There. I said it.

(I don't really feel any better, though).

Very much appreciate your post, Ditto, and also the (shall we say) "confession" on being wrong. It happens to the very best of folk. But many persons simply can't say what your subject line said. BTW, Fonzie couldn't say it either!

I'm not a terribly experienced shooter, and only been after it about four years. But especially with my Henrys, I've found they perform quite well. It usually is me that needs some "adjusting." I'm sure you remember Sir Henry's recent post on his winter-time practice and training sessions...those were extensive, and a good way to go after any needed improvement. I think we can all use that practice, practice, practice time. It does help to shoot better.

From my own experience, I've known for quite a while that I needed to figure out why I was shooting just so-so with my Ruger SP101 .357 magnum revolver. I have an excellent "guide" book written by Grant Cunningham. He is a nationally-known gunsmith, and specializes in revolvers. He has written several Gun Digest Books, and the one I continue to use is his The Book of the Revolver. He goes into great detail with helps on learning the revolver, and how to effectively use it. My methodology has been to study these details one-by-one, decide the best approach for me as he sometimes provides options, e.g. what constitutes a good grip, and then clearly explains and shows (great pictures!) how to improve your grip. My problem has been the very stout DA trigger on my SP101. I considered a "trigger job," but decided to work with the suggestions Cunningham wrote. It will be two years next month that I've shot this revolver, and have wondered if I would ever get it. Well, earlier this spring I did get it. I found out what I was doing wrong (there's that wonderful word), went after that pesky dual-action trigger, more or less conquered the problem, and my shooting has vastly improved!! Of course, I'll never be an expert, but I'm happy just to improve shooting my favorite handgun. Yeah!!

One more thing. You might not feel better, but you done good at least by me. Your note was very positive to read. Thanks!

Post by **RetiredSeabee** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:45 pm

We will give you a mulligan on that one.
You do know you can tinker with the trigger and make it better. And the Skinner sight would just be icing on the cake.

Squatch · Post by **Squatch** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:01 am

The best thing about that admission is that it's a joy to solve that problem. You have to shoot more!

The peep will make you a better shooter. I'm very far from an expert and shoot OK but not great. But I keep improving when I work on it. I find it's good to go to the range by yourself sometimes and just shoot. Same gun and ammo over and over. Get comfortable with the gun. Then do the same motions over and over. Same grip. Same sight picture. Work on the muscle memory. work on your breathing. It's important. I find that's helped me. I was never holding the gun the same way twice before. Makes you inconsistent.

Post by **Travlin** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:52 am

Thanks for some good truth that we all know in the back of our minds . Sometimes we just need to take a deep breath , relax and put the treadmill of life aside so we can enjoy our shooting experience.

Post by **Sir Henry** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:23 am

The Skinner is just half the sight picture. Add a Lyman Globe and you will "see" you can shoot a lot better. Also a slight trigger job will help. And don't forget about the ammo. The H001 loves Standard Velocity ammo. With the right setup I can get sub-inch groups at 50 yards with peep sights on my Small Game Carbine.

Post by **White Squirrel** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:59 am

Hmmm.... Trying to think of when in the last 41 years (i.e., married life) that I have been right!

Seriously, the Skinner peep helped me a lot. So much, that I even found a company that makes a rear peep sight for a GP100. Not as good quality as a Skinner, but I love it. I would put them on all my guns if I could find ones to fit.

Frank V · Post by **Frank V** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:05 pm

Get the Skinners you will like them.

http://www.skinnersights.com

Post by **PT7** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:01 pm

White Squirrel wrote:Hmmm.... Trying to think of when in the last 41 years (i.e., married life) that I have been right!

Seriously, the Skinner peep helped me a lot. So much, that I even found a company that makes a rear peep sight for a GP100. Not as good quality as a Skinner, but I love it. I would put them on all my guns if I could find ones to fit.

Interesting, White Squirrel, that you found a peep sight for a GP100. What is the name or web address of the company? I'd like to check that out.

I have an SP101 with adjustable rear sight; don't know the brand of the sight, but it is a rectangular slotted blade. I changed out the front fiber optic to a black ramp, and it was a quite good adjust. I shoot okay with it. But I also like peep sights a lot. It would be interesting to see if the company makes/has a peep for my .357 revolver. I think the sights on yours and mine are quite similar.
Thanks.

Post by **White Squirrel** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:55 pm

PT7, the dealer was Warren Custom Outdoor Products (www.warrencustomoutdoor.com). It is called their "One Hole Sight". They don't list the SP101 but it would be worth contacting them to see.

It is definitely not as "robust" as a Skinner peep, but it does have to fit in the slot where you take out the regular "U" rear sight.

Good luck.

Post by **PT7** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:14 pm

White Squirrel wrote:PT7, the dealer was Warren Custom Outdoor Products (http://www.warrencustomoutdoor.com). It is called their "One Hole Sight". They don't list the SP101 but it would be worth contacting them to see.

It is definitely not as "robust" as a Skinner peep, but it does have to fit in the slot where you take out the regular "U" rear sight.

Good luck.

White Squirrel,
Chatted with the "One Hole Sight" dealer a little while ago. Sure sounded like a Mom/Pop operation -- the wife answered, hollered across the house telling her husband someone was calling about the sight, then when chatting with the owner, heard the doorbell ringing away and the owner letting his wife know that, etc.,etc.; ..... I felt right at home!

But his explanation and some specs he gave me were helpful. He told me that another person, who has an SP101, bought the set of 2 aperture sight blades. His web site lists the aperture sizes, and I converted them to decimal equivalents: 7/32" = 0.21875"; 9/32" = 0.28125". The smallest extra aperture size I have for my Skinner peep sight on my Henry SGC is .040". I think either one of these "one hole sight" sizes might work okay on a revolver, plus there is the ease of moving the sight closer/further away from the eye with a handgun. And not any different than the Skinner peep install, a person would have to see if the height of the front sight might need to be adjusted. The owner said not usually with his customers, but one never knows.

A couple of key specs he gave me as relate to the SP101. Since this is a smaller revolver than the GP100, the blade he makes would fit, but are a little wide on the SP101. He said the other SP101 owner just filed the blade to correct width on the revolver. Sounds like a can-do. But the second spec is helpful, too. The thickness of all his blades is .044". So I just need to remove my current rectangular-slot blade from my revolver and measure it. If thickness is a match, the product he has could be a go for my SP101.

As I usually do, I'll cogitate on this a little while, and check out the thickness of my stock rear blade. The possibility is appealing to maybe install a peep on the SP101. The Skinner sights are great on my Henrys, and I also used a ghost-ring sight on a s/g I used to own. I like these sight types.

Again, thanks for the info. If I do get it, I'll post the outcome.

Post by **White Squirrel** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:20 pm

Glad to hear. I did not need any front sight adjustment on my GP100 (4") as it worked fine right out of the box.

Good luck, I hope it works for you.

Post by **Sir Henry** » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:34 am

Cogitate? You won't find me cogitating.

Post by **RanchRoper** » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:50 pm

I thought I was wrong one time, but it turned out I was mistaken...

Post by **Sir Henry** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:08 am

RanchRoper wrote:I thought I was wrong one time, but it turned out I was mistaken...

You were wrong in thinking you could be wrong.

Post by **ditto1958** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:40 pm

Sigh... all this because I couldn't shoot straight with my Henry.

Post by **Sir Henry** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:02 am

ditto1958 wrote:Sigh... all this because I couldn't shoot straight with my Henry.

We find that you being wrong is quite entertaining.

adirondack · Post by **adirondack** » Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:59 pm

I have been shooting for years and all I can say is " what a difference a day can make" don't know why. But sometimes it happens, maybe frustration or something on your mind. before you get to bent up always take a break and come back with a fresh perspective. And its a lot cheaper fix.

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