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Front sight is too tall
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:41 pm
by Brando73
My henry .17 hmr varmint is cool. I put a scope on it but had to get tall rings to keep it floated from the barrel. Put some leupold rings that are high and you can co-witness with the iron sights. Problem is, (reason I jumped on scoping it) the front sight is WAY too tall. Not sure the engineering thoughts on this was but with that stock, no way to get low enough. Not going to put a fore grip ring hiviz on it. Can't find henry front sight that is lower. I'd go with a different front sight from another company if it's lower.
Anyone else have this problem with the varmint?
I don't get many responses here but I hope this one will generate at least an answer for me. It would be a shame to have the ability to co-witness with the factory irons and they be worthless as a 3rd thumb.
Help. It can't just be me
Re: Front sight is too tall
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:57 pm
by markiver54
I thought the same thing when handling one, prior to my SGC purchase. Just did not feel comfortable trying to get a good site picture.
I felt like I would have to rest the stock almost on the top of my shoulder to aim.
Re: Front sight is too tall
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:12 am
by North Country Gal
Before going to a lower sight, have you checked your point of impact using that tall front sight? Going to a lower front sight height is traditionally done when a gun shoots too low and you need to raise the POI.
If you go too low on that front sight height, you may find you've raised the point of impact too much and don't have enough rear sight adjustment left to bring that point of impact down where you want it.
What type of front sight are you using? A traditional blade front sight can be filed down, little by little, to move the POI up where you want it for a setup that is shooting too low. Skinner blade front sights are perfect for this.
Re: Front sight is too tall
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:48 am
by Brando73
Thanks. I just can't get the stock high enough to get the front sight in a usable position. The set up should allow a good shoulder purchase on the stock and not have it on you shoulder like a bazooka. You can raise or find rear sights that will adjust higher but your stuck with the height of the front. Henry knows this. My scope is high and withe the leupold, you can use the iron sights perfectly excep for the high front.
I'll look at the skinner sights.
I'm using the factory sights which are HVIZ.
Re: Front sight is too tall
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:15 pm
by ol'pole
Go to Marblesguns maker of iron sights for over 100 years, they have many different heights of front and rear sights. I put them on my Henry, I like the fiber optic front sight, easer for these old eyes to see
Re: Front sight is too tall
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:55 pm
by Brando73
Thanks. I'll try Marblesguns. POI has zero to do when you have to put your eye at the same level as the top of the stock. You can adjust zero with a good rear sight but you can fix the way God made our bodies. Like to hear something from Henry on why they did this. I'm a big henry fan with another on the way. Someone had to have brought this up during the pre build. What say you Henry?
Re: Front sight is too tall
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:39 pm
by ol'pole
Here's something to remove, install & adjust sights, Wyoming sight drifter, easy to use only $35, WORKS GREAT love mine
Re: Front sight is too tall
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:56 pm
by markiver54
I agree. Maybe I'm missing something, but this issue is exactly why I did not purchace the 17hmr.
Too bad, cause I did want it.
Re: Front sight is too tall
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:17 pm
by North Country Gal
Brando73 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:55 pm
Thanks. I'll try Marblesguns. POI has zero to do when you have to put your eye at the same level as the top of the stock. You can adjust zero with a good rear sight but you can fix the way God made our bodies. Like to hear something from Henry on why they did this. I'm a big henry fan with another on the way. Someone had to have brought this up during the pre build. What say you Henry?
I understand. Just pointing out what can happen when changing the height of the front sight as far as possible issues. Hope you can work something out. Perhaps a call to Henry customer service might help.
Re: Front sight is too tall
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:21 pm
by Brando73
I appreciate the feedback. I've never had this issue before but this gun has a wooden riser cheekrest that adds to the delima. It's made for a scope but I like the ability to use both sights if I can. Hope I can find a fix with marblesguns. I sent them an email.
Thanks for the input. I do appreciate the help
Re: Front sight is too tall
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:18 pm
by deano5150
Brando73 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:21 pm
I appreciate the feedback. I've never had this issue before but this gun has a wooden riser cheekrest that adds to the delima. It's made for a scope but I like the ability to use both sights if I can. Hope I can find a fix with marblesguns. I sent them an email.
Thanks for the input. I do appreciate the help
Maybe you can order a stock from Henry without the cheek rest?
Re: Front sight is too tall
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:57 pm
by Bake
deano5150 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:18 pm
Brando73 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:21 pm
I appreciate the feedback. I've never had this issue before but this gun has a wooden riser cheekrest that adds to the delima. It's made for a scope but I like the ability to use both sights if I can. Hope I can find a fix with marblesguns. I sent them an email.
Thanks for the input. I do appreciate the help
Maybe you can order a stock from Henry without the cheek rest?
I have never been able to use the iron sights, and a scope on the same rifle at the same time . . .
Re: Front sight is too tall
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:40 pm
by Brando73
The leupold scope rings allow you to have a full sight picture beneath the scope. Had to go with the taller rings because I have 50mm bell.
I'll pull it out tomorrow and take a picture of it
Re: Front sight is too tall
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:13 am
by Brando73
Henry, the greatest CS in the world. Fixed my problem. I plan on going ahead and ending my collection with a full set of henry rifles. I have many and still waiting on the long ranger as well as finding a pump action 22 lr. I've been close but just missed out.
Once I get these two, I'll figure out what I need but it's only a few as I have several already. I will be thining out the other AK's/AR and a couple more to make room as well as fund the final project. I'l keep the best of the best in long range Ruger precision as well as CZ's shadow 2 and P07, then a few other hand guns. Really wanting that long ranger to come in now that's it's been a few months and my medical conditon may not allow me to enjoy a long time with them. This is the same as with the pump 22lr., and hmr .17 varmint. I shoot the 30-30 and others, but even with reloading, you got to keep in mind that cat Biden and what he might do. Oklahoma is a solid 2A state but he could tax out the primers, powder ect, so I trying to just have and shoot rimfire and 223. Outstanding fun. Outsanding Henry fun.
The great sights I put on the .17 varmint allowed for full cow-witness but the beautiful walnut, builit in cheek riser, was too tall. Went with the conventional one that Henry helped me with and it's perfect. I think I have a pic posted on another threadhere
Re: Front sight is too tall
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:53 am
by JEBar
Brando73 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:13 am
Henry, the greatest CS in the world. Fixed my problem. I plan on going ahead and ending my collection with a full set of henry rifles.
no surprise and great to hear .... be sure to continue to update our How Many? thread (
http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2019) as you expand your Henry collection