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6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:41 pm
by JEBar
the 6.5mm Creedmoor cartridge is one I have no personal experience with .... with Henry selecting it as one of its calibers for their Long Ranger, it peaked my curiosity .... my bullets of choice are made by Nosler and from reading their manual, the 6.5 was originally designed to be used in long range shooting competitions ....one of the comments taken from the link below really got my attention: " Long-range shooter Ray "RayDog" Sanchez summarized the bolt-action Tubb 2000 rifle in 6.5mm Creedmoor as "boringly accurate" at 1,000 yards" .... in recent years bullet manufactures have begun to produce high quality hunting bullets .... I'd enjoy hearing personal observations from folks who have personal experience using (specially hunting) a 6.5 Creedmoor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5mm_Creedmoor
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:16 pm
by Cofisher
Ditto. I want a single shot for longer range work than my 357 is capable of. The venerable 308 is my first choice, but I keep hearing about 6.5 as a better round. As always, bullet weight vs Fps is an issue. Interested in anyone's input. Largest game will be the typical whitetail.
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:24 pm
by BigAl52
Single Shot Henry CoFisher?
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:44 am
by 220
Not a lot of experience with it but son picked up a howa earlier this year.
It is pretty much a ballistic twin of the 6.5x55 that has been around since the late 1800's. The 6.5x55 gets used on moose in the scandinavian countries so more than enough for whitetails.
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:51 am
by ESquared
BigAl52 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:24 pm
Single Shot Henry CoFisher?
Single shot would have to be a 308, I believe. No such thing as a Creedmoor single shot (so far, anyway) from HRA. 308 SS would definitely give you all you need for distance hunting, though, and the recoil (in the LR anyway) isn't bad at all.
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:42 am
by BigAl52
Yes my reason for asking the question was just to see if he was waiting for Henry to chamber that round in the Henry Single shot. 308 in the Henry would be a good choice if single shot is desired.
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:43 am
by ESquared
BigAl52 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:42 am
Yes my reason for asking the question was just to see if he was waiting for Henry to chamber that round in the Henry Single shot. 308 in the Henry would be a good choice if single shot is desired.
Agreed, but now that you mention it, it seems like a SS Creedmoor wouldn't be that much of a stretch. I mean, some of us were scratching our heads when they came out with the LR in Creedmoor, but now it just seems to make sense. Single shot might follow the same product development pattern.
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:50 am
by Firefly
It would not be difficult to replace a .308 barrel with a 6.5 Creedmoor barrel they are both short action and any barrel maker could produce one chambered for the 6.5 to fit whatever action you want to fit it too.
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:40 pm
by Cofisher
Yeah, I am interested in the possibility of Henry adding the 6.5 to the single shot line. I am not completely sold on 6.5 over 308. A lot of history behind the 308. We know it is a solid performer. Plus, I really like fatter bullets. Lol
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:14 pm
by Firefly
The 6.5 Creedmoor is much more ballistically efficient than then.308 due to its bullet shape it may have a lower muzzle velocity but at 600 yards it is travelling faster than the .308 and shows less drop and less drift than .308. It is actually a better performer over 1200 yards than.308.
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:34 pm
by Cofisher
I understand the ballistic argument. But, a big but, I can't find a target at 600 yards! 300-400 is as far as I can imagine shooting.
I am not a long range shooter. And don't aspire to be one. I am an old school hunter.
So, still leaning toward the 308. Ammo availability at a reasonable price is also a factor. I will probably learn to reload for it too.
Thanks for the input. An ongoing research project.
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:15 pm
by JEBar
Cofisher wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:34 pm
I understand the ballistic argument. But, a big but, I can't find a target at 600 yards! 300-400 is as far as I can imagine shooting.
I am not a long range shooter. And don't aspire to be one. I am an old school hunter.
So, still leaning toward the 308. Ammo availability at a reasonable price is also a factor. I will probably learn to reload for it too.
I agree .... its an interesting cartridge and I've enjoyed learning about it ... in my world, a 308 has proven to be highly effective
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:41 am
by Firefly
You are dead right as a hunting cartridge the .308 is superior the Creedmoor is better as a long range target round.
That said the Creedmoor is still a very good hunting round with a lot less recoil than .308 and is plenty of gun for any game hunting.
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:18 am
by Firefly
The best online blog about the two calibres can be found at https//thebiggamehuntingblog.com
Under 65'creedmoor Vs 308 Winchester debate settled. The blogger gives all the pros and cons for both calibres along with drop, drift, velocity and recoil values
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:45 am
by JEBar
interesting read ..... seems to be well documented .... since I don't shoot at 1,200 yard or even 500 yard targets I'm glad I went with a 308
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:27 pm
by Mgderf
I bought a 6.5 Creedmoor last year. It is a Howa 1500 bolt gun in an A.B. Arms precision chassis.
I haven't really played with it that much yet, but I hope to change that soon.
I bought it for hunting deer, even though the last thing I really needed was ANOTHER deer gun.
If I took about 5 years, and more work than I care to think about, I could put in a 900 yard range on my property.
That would run end to end, with nothing behind the backstop, but there it is.
I think that would likely be the farthest I would have the opportunity to shoot.
As of now, my visibility is limited to about 300 yards, and even though the .308 will suffice at these ranges, I believe variety is the spice of life.
I hope to harvest at least one deer with the 6.5 Creedmoor this upcoming season.
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:34 pm
by JEBar
Mgderf wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:27 pm
I hope to harvest at least one deer with the 6.5 Creedmoor this upcoming season.
really looking forward to following your prehunt preparations and even more to your post hunt reports
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:00 pm
by 220
Mgderf wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:27 pm
I bought a 6.5 Creedmoor last year. It is a Howa 1500 bolt gun in an A.B. Arms precision chassis.
I haven't really played with it that much yet, but I hope to change that soon.
I bought it for hunting deer, even though the last thing I really needed was ANOTHER deer gun.
If I took about 5 years, and more work than I care to think about, I could put in a 900 yard range on my property.
That would run end to end, with nothing behind the backstop, but there it is.
I think that would likely be the farthest I would have the opportunity to shoot.
As of now, my visibility is limited to about 300 yards, and even though the .308 will suffice at these ranges, I believe variety is the spice of life.
I hope to harvest at least one deer with the 6.5 Creedmoor this upcoming season.
Son was after one in a chassis but impossible to find here in Aus at the time so we picked up a 26" HB barreled action and dropped it into the cheapest sythentic stock we could find. Stock was very flexible but it did show promise. We have no trouble getting out to 600y, and one day should be able to get to 1700y if I do a bit of work.
At 500y it was consistantly shooting 5-6" groups with Hornady factory ammo. Most of the groups were only showing about 3" vertical,considering the stock and factory ammo I think it should be possible to halve the results.
He picked up a KRG Bravo chassis to drop it into yesterday and a set of dies so interested in seeing what improvement he gets.
Re: 6.5mm Creedmoor
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:48 am
by Mgderf
I would love the opportunity to shoot out to 1700 yards.
One thousand would be great, but I just don't have the acreage.