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Does any one use leverevollution either in 44Mag. or 45-70 in there henry? if you do how does it work (feed) and shoot?

I have but it didn't work out for us .... if you are using factor loads and if your rifle likes it (some have reported issues chambering it ) its OK .... due to the construction of their 45-70 bullets, their cases are shorter than standard .... consequently they should only be reloaded with the same Hornady bullets .... for us, that's a no-go

one3 wrote:Does any one use leverevollution either in 44Mag. or 45-70 in there henry? if you do how does it work (feed) and shoot?

I have a new .41 mag that LeverRevolution shoots and feeds/extracts well in, if that's any help. Bagged a doe a few days ago with it at about 80yds. As always, the only way to know for sure is to buy a box and try it out in your gun.

Did a comparison of about 7 different brands in my 30-30 and LeveRevolution came in dead last, accuracy-wise and was very problematic in the mag tube. The pointy tips seemed to slip off of the case next to it, resulting in an obstruction that prevented the full insertion of the mag tube plunger.

But, as noted, you may have a totally different experience. The only way to tell is to spend the 20 bucks and try it.

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Try use the forum search function. Search for "leverevolution" (spelled correctly). Too many finds to list here. Anyway read some of them. Some people like them, some don't. I don't use them for cost reasons.

one3 wrote:Does any one use leverevollution either in 44Mag. or 45-70 in there henry? if you do how does it work (feed) and shoot?

I have only shot them in my Marlin 444SS, they cycled fine and shot fine.
Don't actually remember how well they grouped as that was quite a while ago.

But, was not crazy about the amount of damaged meat that the round caused.
So I never used them again, still have about a half a box of 'em.
Won't hunt with them again, and will only shoot the remaining ammo just for the brass.

A buddy of mine and I bought 10 boxes of the 35 Rem some years back and split them between us.
Only bought those for the brass also. Still have my 5 boxes in the safe as of now I have plenty of brass for the 35's at the moment.

That is all the experience I have with them.
I know of others that had better luck.
Most of my shooting these days consist of cast, and very little jacketed stuff.
YMMV

RP

My experience with the LE stuff was only in Marlin 30-30s. Accuracy in some was phenomenal, but accuracy in others was just as phenomenally bad. Definitely a try it and see in your gun kind of ammo.

I as well shot it in my 45-70 AW Henry. It was very accurate in my gun. I however have not taken any game with it and have read many different opinions about the round in general.

North Country Gal wrote:My experience with the LE stuff was only in Marlin 30-30s. Accuracy in some was phenomenal, but accuracy in others was just as phenomenally bad. Definitely a try it and see in your gun kind of ammo.

My old marlin 30/30 is one of those that shoots it phenomenally, genuine moa groups all the way out to 300 and the same with reloads using the FTX projectiles.
I did play with them in 357, accuracy was on par with 158gr but had to make a custom seating stem to prevent damage to the projectile during seating. They eat into case capacity to get a OAL that will work. In the end I couldnt see a use for a lighter than standard bullet at lower velocity with a lower BC that didnt shoot any more accurately.

My opinion is is rifle cals they can offer some real advantages, in pistol cals they are more of a gimmick.

I've shot a few LE FTX rounds from my Henry 30-30, it seems accurate, and fed and chambered really well. I didn't finish sighting in, however. I was shooting at a black and white "scope target" at 100 yards, with the white blade/ghost ring sights version, and I simply couldn't see the target well enough to continue. It definitely shot higher than some Rem. 170 grain loads I'd started with. Unfortunately, the range was too busy that day (too close to deer season ) to move to a closer target.

I have shot the 45-70 250 grain LE Monoflex through my single shot, though. I know that helps no one on the feeding/function question, but I'm getting groups of about 1 1/2 inch at 100 yards. The single shot with a Leupold 2.5X Untralight scope weighs 7 lbs 12 oz., and recoil with that round is not bad at all, seems to be less than 300 grain conventional loads (which group slightly lower). I haven't tried the LE 325 grain FTX rounds, yet. The 250 grain round worked just fine on an antlerless deer last week, though.

I tried leverlution in my 30-30, never would I buy it for any gun again. Buddy tried it in his, same result, in a 5 shot group, 3 might be on paper at 100yfs, switched to old school 170gr. Remington, Winchester, and had five shot groups of 2”or less on the first round at 100yds.

They feed great in my Henry 44 steel carbine and are pretty accurate

Chuckh65 wrote:They feed great in my Henry 44 steel carbine and are pretty accurate

Given the feedback on this ammo (from "it's great to it sucks"), and my own limited experience with it (I'm on the "it's great" side) I'd opine that the ammo is not the source of the problem that some folks apparently have with it accuracy wise. So that leaves only 2 other possibilities: 1. It's the gun. 2. It's the shooter.

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3. Sloppy quality control between production runs. Some folks get lucky and get the good stuff and others don't.

GunnyGene wrote:

Chuckh65 wrote:They feed great in my Henry 44 steel carbine and are pretty accurate

Given the feedback on this ammo (from "it's great to it sucks"), and my own limited experience with it (I'm on the "it's great" side) I'd opine that the ammo is not the source of the problem that some folks apparently have with it accuracy wise. So that leaves only 2 other possibilities: 1. It's the gun. 2. It's the shooter.

Mags wrote:.
3. Sloppy quality control between production runs. Some folks get lucky and get the good stuff and others don't.

Never had a problem with any Hornady ammo in decades of shooting their stuff, so it seems like a stretch that QC would be an issue with LevRev.

I’ve used it in both .41, and .44 with decent results. Overall I prefer federal fusion in my .44, and use either Speer gold dots or the leverevolutions in the .41. Accuracy wise they shoot well out of both rifles for me

As far as it just not shooting well in some rifles, that happens with other ammo and other rifles, too. I have a .257 Roberts Ruger 77 ultralight that seems to hate Hornady, but loves Federal Premium Nosler Partitions, which is OK, 'cause I do, too . It's a light rifle with a thin barrel, so it's fussy, as is a Ruger #1-A 7X57; I've found ammo it likes, too. I suspect that lever rifles and single shots with 2 piece stocks can be fussier than most bolt actions, when it comes to feeding them.

North Country Gal wrote:My experience with the LE stuff was only in Marlin 30-30s. Accuracy in some was phenomenal, but accuracy in others was just as phenomenally bad. Definitely a try it and see in your gun kind of ammo.

I tried a box of it in my .357 BBSC. No bueno. Mine loves American Eagle 158 grain soft points.

My 41's (Henry rifle and Ruger SBHH) didn't shoot the factory loadings well at all. I reloaded with Lil Gun, with very good results. The factory loads cycled very well- no problems. My Marlins (diff. calibers) cycled/shot factory/reloads very well. Just my 2 cents.

My BBS 44M loves them! Feed great and very consistent accuracy! 50 yds on sand bags will consistently touch each other and the 100yd is about 1.5 " groups with only an inch lower than 50yds. Sight in at 100 and any deer you can see is in trouble. Their 225 grain is as accurate as heavier bullets but shoot much flatter.