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Interesting observation of hornaday ftx

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:57 am
by DsGrouse
This is 357, but I wonder if it correlates to 45 colt at all. I imagine it would.

the ftx is around 1836 fps out of a miroku
1903 out of a rossi

https://youtu.be/qy8CD8r5aa4

Re: Interesting observation of hornaday ftx

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:39 pm
by 220
I played around loading FTX in my 357 when they first came out and couldnt find a reason to use them.
The gummy tip means they are long in the shank to keep OAL that will function, it eats into case capacity. End result was velocity only the same as what I get with 158 XTP or GDHP. Despite the gummy tip the BC of the FTX is actually worse than the XTP.
I can see no advantage to a lighter bullet with a poorer BC at the same velocity. I love the FTX in my 30/30 but in pistol cals I think they are a gimmick that offers no real advantage.

Re: Interesting observation of hornaday ftx

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:59 pm
by DsGrouse
I'll say that I've had okay luck with hornaday's factory loads using the ftx, but reloading them. Well as new as I am, i think I am the problem.

I find that i like the 250 xtp's or 300 xtps more.

Re: Interesting observation of hornaday ftx

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 6:20 pm
by Mags
I have the Hornady FTX factory loads in 45 colt. The bullet went where I shot it so had no reason to compare it to something else.
I see no reason to reload using FTX bullets. Reload data says to resize cases shorter to accommodate the longer FTX bullet to meet colt 45 OAL. Naw I'll use another bullet to preserve case length for as long possible. I did decap one of the factory rounds to see how much Leverevolution powder was in one. When I went to reseat the bullet I found out I needed a pointed bullet seater to accommodate the pointy gummy tip. I ended up making a seater cup out of a washer with a hole in it.
I do keep the shorter factory brass separate from the other regular size 45 colt brass.

Re: Interesting observation of hornaday ftx

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 6:26 pm
by GunnyGene
The sole purpose of the 'gummy' tip is to prevent the hollowpoint from getting clogged up with stuff that ain't meat. Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't.

Re: Interesting observation of hornaday ftx

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 7:16 pm
by DsGrouse
The purpose i thought was to keep the rounds from touching off in the mag tube under recoil.

Re: Interesting observation of hornaday ftx

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 7:49 pm
by GunnyGene
DsGrouse wrote:
Tue Nov 08, 2022 7:16 pm
The purpose i thought was to keep the rounds from touching off in the mag tube under recoil.
Nope. That's just a side benefit. :)

https://www.hornady.com/bullets/ftx#!/

Re: Interesting observation of hornaday ftx

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:04 pm
by Mags
DsGrouse wrote:
Tue Nov 08, 2022 7:16 pm
The purpose i thought was to keep the rounds from touching off in the mag tube under recoil.
It is. The product description makes that point clear. The tip is flexible for exactly that reason.
...harness the accuracy, power and long-range performance of a tipped bullet that's safe to load in tubular magazines.

Re: Interesting observation of hornaday ftx

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:29 am
by Vaquero
DsGrouse wrote:
Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:59 pm
I'll say that I've had okay luck with hornaday's factory loads using the ftx, but reloading them. Well as new as I am, i think I am the problem.

I find that i like the 250 xtp's or 300 xtps more.
I prefer the xtp's to the ftx.

RP

Re: Interesting observation of hornaday ftx

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:57 am
by DsGrouse
Vaquero wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:29 am
DsGrouse wrote:
Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:59 pm
I'll say that I've had okay luck with hornaday's factory loads using the ftx, but reloading them. Well as new as I am, i think I am the problem.

I find that i like the 250 xtp's or 300 xtps more.
I prefer the xtp's to the ftx.

RP

I am finding that the xtp seems to be better overall, and I don't have to trim brass.