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Federal Punch .45acp
Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 4:57 pm
by GunnyGene
Been trying out various ammo for my Tisas 1911 for the past few weeks. Yesterday, I tried out some of the offering from Federal - 230grn jhp. Stuff is expensive, so only shot 1 mag full (8rnds) which went feedbangeject with no problems. Accuracy was acceptable, the same as any of the other ammo I've tried out. Seems to be a good choice for HD, if my 9's run out.
I don't bother with penetration "tests", since there's lot's of that nonsense on utube, and I already know that it will make a hole bigger than a 9mm and smaller than a Brenneke 12 gauge slug; which I also have.
Re: Federal Punch .45acp
Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 5:33 pm
by Rifletom
GunnyGene wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 4:57 pm
Been trying out various ammo for my Tisas 1911 for the past few weeks. Yesterday, I tried out some of the offering from Federal - 230grn jhp. Stuff is expensive, so only shot 1 mag full (8rnds) which went feedbangeject with no problems. Accuracy was acceptable, the same as any of the other ammo I've tried out. Seems to be a good choice for HD, if my 9's run out.
I don't bother with penetration "tests", since there's lot's of that nonsense on utube, and I already know that it will make a hole bigger than a 9mm and smaller than a Brenneke 12 gauge slug; which I also have.
Remember Gunny, "a 9mm may expand, but, a .45 will never shrink." Thought you might like that.
Re: Federal Punch .45acp
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 8:07 am
by Travlin
Any one that shoots a 1911 has to be ahead of a lot of the others. John Browning and the Army got it right.
Re: Federal Punch .45acp
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 8:26 am
by GunnyGene
Travlin wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 8:07 am
Any one that shoots a 1911 has to be ahead of a lot of the others. John Browning and the Army got it right.
First time I shot a 1911 was in the mid '50's when I was about 10 or 11. Then a lot when I was active duty. Didn't shoot one again after I retired in '83 until I bought this Tisas this past April. Life sometimes get's in the way.
Re: Federal Punch .45acp
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 12:30 pm
by DsGrouse
Re: Federal Punch .45acp
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 1:00 pm
by BrokenolMarine
I have shot them quite a bit, and like them a lot. But my carry 45 has always been the P220 Sig... She's nearly 30 years old, battle worn and scarred; but then so am I. (Okay,
I'm a whole lot older than 30, but I'm both battle worn and really, really, scarred. ) But we can both still shoot. (OR could until the move... ) I should finish the range in the next week or so, then I'll know.
I'm sure my skills have degraded, but I'll get back there.
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I issued my Officers Federal Hydra Shocks or Speer Gold Dots, whatever we got on Federal Contract that year, both were excellent. That's what I still carry. I like both a lot. There may be newer ammo that's better, but you go with what you know and trust. I was involved in range testing of both for the department, and then again at a major law enforcement expo. I know firsthand I can rely on both in the platform I'm carrying, and in the Glock 22 and 23 in 40 caliber. I'm good.
As far as 1911's; I won't carry my Match Gun, nor use it around the house or property for home defense due to the 2-1/2 pound trigger. I'm comfortable with it, but I don't want to try and defend THAT after the fact.
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The Kimber is beautiful, my Bar-B-Que gun so to speak. She's a bit finicky as far as hollow point ammo goes and I don't care to chance a jam or failure to feed for an EDC gun when I have so many other dead bang reliable options to choose from.
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Re: Federal Punch .45acp
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:52 pm
by GunnyGene
BrokenolMarine wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 1:00 pm
I have shot them quite a bit, and like them a lot. But my carry 45 has always been the P220 Sig... She's nearly 30 years old, battle worn and scarred; but then so am I. (Okay,
I'm a whole lot older than 30, but I'm both battle worn and really, really, scarred. ) But we can both still shoot. (OR could until the move... ) I should finish the range in the next week or so, then I'll know.
I'm sure my skills have degraded, but I'll get back there.
with some warmup.jpg
I issued my Officers Federal Hydra Shocks or Speer Gold Dots, whatever we got on Federal Contract that year, both were excellent. That's what I still carry. I like both a lot. There may be newer ammo that's better, but you go with what you know and trust. I was involved in range testing of both for the department, and then again at a major law enforcement expo. I know firsthand I can rely on both in the platform I'm carrying, and in the Glock 22 and 23 in 40 caliber. I'm good.
As far as 1911's; I won't carry my Match Gun, nor use it around the house or property for home defense due to the 2-1/2 pound trigger. I'm comfortable with it, but I don't want to try and defend THAT after the fact.
24 rounds 25 yards.jpg
The Kimber is beautiful, my Bar-B-Que gun so to speak. She's a bit finicky as far as hollow point ammo goes and I don't care to chance a jam or failure to feed for an EDC gun when I have so many other dead bang reliable options to choose from.
02 Galco Leather.jpg
Nice collection. And I see I'm not the only one who likes well made leather pancake holsters. I've got (another) one coming from Diamond D.
Re: Federal Punch .45acp
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 4:04 pm
by BrokenolMarine
I'm going to start making my own now that I'm getting into the leather work. I usually carry the Sig in a Galco Miami Classic shoulder holster.
Re: Federal Punch .45acp
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 4:26 pm
by GunnyGene
BrokenolMarine wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:04 pm
I'm going to start making my own now that I'm getting into the leather work. I usually carry the Sig in a Galco Miami Classic shoulder holster.
This is the Diamond D pancake ( the second one I'll have) to compare to the Galco. Note the sweat guard, and reinforced mouth. Those were the deciding factors for me. Stitching details are also a little different.
Stock photo:
Re: Federal Punch .45acp
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 4:35 pm
by BrokenolMarine
Very nice. I bought the Galco for the Kimber when Miss T bought the Kimber for me as a gift for an off duty gun. I had been working with Juvenile Drug Dealers an a number of them had made threats. As we carried the Glock 22 on duty on duty, I carried the 27 off duty, with two full size 22 mags for reloads.
Re: Federal Punch .45acp
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 4:45 pm
by GunnyGene
BrokenolMarine wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:35 pm
Very nice. I bought the Galco for the Kimber when Miss T bought the Kimber for me as a gift for an off duty gun. I had been working with Juvenile Drug Dealers an a number of them had made threats. As we carried the Glock 22 on duty on duty, I carried the 27 off duty, with two full size 22 mags for reloads.
That was nice of her
. I can't say the same, since my late wife hadn't been employed for many years, but that's ok. She did more in other ways than what many life partners would do. I miss her more than anyone can imagine
.
Re: Federal Punch .45acp
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 5:16 pm
by BrokenolMarine
GunnyGene wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:45 pm
BrokenolMarine wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:35 pm
Very nice. I bought the Galco for the Kimber when Miss T bought the Kimber for me as a gift for an off duty gun. I had been working with Juvenile Drug Dealers an a number of them had made threats. As we carried the Glock 22 on duty on duty, I carried the 27 off duty, with two full size 22 mags for reloads.
That was nice of her
. I can't say the same, since my late wife hadn't been employed for many years, but that's ok. She did more in other ways than what many life partners would do. I miss her more than anyone can imagine
.
Sorry for your loss. . Don't know what I'll do if Miss T goes first.
Re: Federal Punch .45acp
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 7:28 pm
by BrokenolMarine
Back to the subject of ammo, every get a chance to try Glasers? A SWAT LT recommended them for home defense and walking the woods one afternoon my Mother in law shot a squirrel with Miss Ts Chief's Special. A $3 shot, but not much left. The Glaser did it's job. Luckily they came six to the blister pack, so we had an extra.
I later switched the 38 and 357s over to Gold Dots as well.
Re: Federal Punch .45acp
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 10:11 pm
by Travlin
Broken Marine, That is nice selection of pistols but I have one ? The one that has 1911 A-1 on the slide appears to have the flat spring housing what is with that?
Re: Federal Punch .45acp
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 11:17 pm
by BrokenolMarine
Travlin wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 10:11 pm
Broken Marine, That is nice selection of pistols but I have one ? The one that has 1911 A-1 on the slide appears to have the flat spring housing what is with that?
That is my Match 1911. When I was shooting PPC at the local level, we shot 60 round matches from 7 to 25 yards and I was shooting against the guys in the general area. I shot the matches with a stock Springfield Armory 1911 I bought used. I won "Most" of the time. I shot the Service Auto matches with my P220 and won those "Most" of the time. Then my "Rabbi" or Law Enforcement advisor told me it was time to move up to state level. Big difference and before I made the move our buddy, a Nationally Known pistolsmith, built that Springfield into a Match .45. Basically the only stock thing remaining were the slide and frame. THEY had been tuned. The barrel, bushing, trigger, hammer, firing pin, sights, extractor, mainspring housing, all the springs, and all the internals had been replaced or polished and hand fitted. The pistol has a 2.5 pound trigger pull and is more accurate than I'll ever be.
*** Before doing the final work on the trigger the Smith called and asked if I would EVER carry this firearm or use if for anything other than match work. NO, I told him, you have worked on the guns I carry. "All I needed to know."
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Before going to the line for the match, the guns slide and sights got smoked flat black... no dots, triangles, tritium, or tricks. Flat Black Sight picture. This reduced all glare and gave a crisp clear sight picture.
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The smoke was just carbon and brushed off, what little residue remained came right off with Hoppes when the gun was cleaned. Duty Weapons with Night Sights weren't affected as long as you didn't get them too close to the smoker. I still have my smoker and still smoke sights when shooting for groups.
Re: Federal Punch .45acp
Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 9:00 am
by BrokenolMarine
I forgot to mention, at state level, the matches were called 1500 matches. They were 150 rounds. The 60 round match I had been shooting at the local level was just one stage of the 1500, called Match 5.
Re: Federal Punch .45acp
Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 11:16 am
by fortyshooter
Nice 45 shooters guys! I'll be shooting the dust off my Ruger 1911 Cmd soon. New barrel for suppressor use on the way. I have another two 45 semi autos that I carry for SD or all around use so the Ruger will make a nice relatively quiet range plinker when needed.
