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Re: Water heaters

Post by Hatchdog » Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:56 am

I’m interested in your results too. Around here more and more homes are being built without basements (cheaper) and the furnace and water heaters are put in the garages. Of course this requires the garage to be insulated and sheet rocked which is a good thing. Something I wish I had done when the house was built. Not sure if folks with the garage located systems are heating the garage or not. But with out winter temps I’m thinking it would be needed.
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Re: Water heaters

Post by Sir Henry » Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:22 am

Hatchdog wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:56 am
I’m interested in your results too. Around here more and more homes are being built without basements (cheaper) and the furnace and water heaters are put in the garages. Of course this requires the garage to be insulated and sheet rocked which is a good thing. Something I wish I had done when the house was built. Not sure if folks with the garage located systems are heating the garage or not. But with out winter temps I’m thinking it would be needed.
My garage in Woodinville, WA wasn’t insulated but it doesn’t get that cold there or if it did it didn’t last long. Here in Wisconsin my on demand water is in a small closet in the house along with the furnace. It’s usually in the high 70’s in that room.
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Re: Water heaters

Post by markiver54 » Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:55 am

Got my quote this morning.
I asked the representative if it would be ok if I purchased the unit myself that they would still do the install. He said yes and that it would save me significant money. I might add that he said these units are pretty common around here. The brand he quoted is " Rinnai ". Maybe the "Navien" he mentioned first is not available with the heat box for protection. Difference being the " Rinnai " has a ten year warranty as opposed to the " Navien " which has a twelve year warranty.

If I'm understanding his quote correctly, which I will call and confirm, the cost of them providing the unit and installation total with tax would be $5433.79. Total. With customer supplied unit, $2725.43.
Ten year heat exchanger warranty, six year on parts and two years on labor.

To compare, I'm going to get a second and possibly a third estimate.

Edit: I don't think the customer supplied unit cost includes labor.
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Re: Water heaters

Post by markiver54 » Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:00 pm

This shows why I want to do this. The new tankless would be mounted on the brick wall and open up my passage.
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Re: Water heaters

Post by markiver54 » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:03 pm

I've set up another estimate for tomorrow and a third for next Wednesday. After the third, I will make a decision.
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Re: Water heaters

Post by markiver54 » Thu Nov 30, 2023 9:51 pm

I was very impressed with the second technician/company that came yesterday. He was here for about 3+1/2 hours. He was very knowledgeable and answered all my questions without pause.
I have now decided to mount the "Navien" 11.4 gpm unit in the closet of my guest room and I'm only going to lose about 1/4 closet capacity. I was truly impressed with this NAVY veteran/Seabee;... Company name "Holy Water Plumbing" and I'm looking forward to the end result.
FYI, it turned out to be just over $6k. Not cheap, however, I feel confident I've made the right decision based on our discussions.

Will report after the job is finished for anyone who it might interest.
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Re: Water heaters

Post by RetiredSeabee » Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:00 am

Sounds like a good plan. Those Seabees are pretty good workers.
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Re: Water heaters

Post by Ernie » Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:49 am

Sounds like a good option. Gas or electric? How much heat will this produce and do you have to have a vent in your closet?
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Re: Water heaters

Post by markiver54 » Fri Dec 01, 2023 1:12 pm

Ernie wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:49 am
Sounds like a good option. Gas or electric? How much heat will this produce and do you have to have a vent in your closet?
The unit will be gas. I think the heat it will produce is up around 140 degrees. (not sere about that though). the unit is a "Navien model 240A. It is rated at about 200,000 btu. It will be vented through the exterior brick wall to the outside.
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Re: Water heaters

Post by markiver54 » Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:38 pm

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Installed Navien 240A tankless water heater.
It will take some time to realize the pros and cons.
At least I got that BOX! out of my breezeway!
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